(June 6, 2020 at 1:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: No comment but this: go, blacks of America. Skin color is just an illusion.
Take back what is yours; but don't kill and plunder.
May Trump be the end of the terror under white skin.

Skin color is not an illusion. Humans have different skin tones. The "illusion" is that majorities worldwide falsely attach their skin tone to their culture/politics/geography/religion.

Blacks have gotten the short end of the economic/justice stick for 400 years. And that is something America has to face.

But please, how well do you think I would be treated in Saudi Arabia being pasty white and being an atheist?


I am white, but for you to blame white 100% of the white population of America based on skin color is hypocrisy. I fucking hate Trump as much as you do, and I am white. And if you must know, my best friend of 16 some odd years, was raised poor and white and religious. He is now a liberal and hates Trump as much as you and I do. I would suggest you also look up Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a dark skinned X Muslim, who lived in Saudi Arabia and was threatened with death for speaking out against Islamic oppression. 


And I have said many times here, while I criticize any and all religions, and can be quite blunt about it. It still remains, while you would risk having a harder time living in America, we are by comparison  far more liberal and pluralistic than Saudi Arabia.

So yea, I am with you in condemning racism and police brutality. But please. In Saudi Arabia the mere mention of saying "Allah does not exist" can get even those born there murdered by a state or  a mob.


America has had a horrible history of racism, and not just of blacks, but Native Americans, Japanese, Chinese,  women, and gays. But we are far better set up with our system of government, to at least try to improve and while it should not have taken Floyd to die, the pluralistic reaction to his death is a beacon of hope. 

Your theocracy still has a far longer road to go.

Yes, America has it's blights and baggage and horrors. But we are still, with all our stains still ahead of closed states like yours and Iran or North Korea or China for that matter.

And the sane here are doing our level best to prevent the orange fuckface from getting another 4 years.

You still assume that I'm a Saudi, but I'm not. I just live there because I have no place else to go to.
America is not a super state; the ugly side of the iceberg was only covered by the efforts of the good people, but Trump's coming to office showed the monster beneath the water.

Ever heard about Andersonville prison in the civil war, Brian?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_C...ison_camps

Quote:About 56,000 soldiers died in prisons during the war, accounting for almost 10% of all Civil War fatalities.[10][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_prison_camps#cite_note-12][/url]

That's a very ugly face of America that we never saw. If whites were treated like that; then how did the poor African slaves treated?

I think of time as a stream; but you are thinking about certain sections only. Maybe that's why we can't understand each other.

I'm just saying that Trump's coming to office in the first place is drastic downfall for America. The civil war didn't free slaves as it seems; it only tranquilized their abusers a little.

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(June 7, 2020 at 5:51 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(June 7, 2020 at 1:14 am)no one Wrote: Everyone bleeds red, and they all tatse like chicken.

Salted pork, actually.

No. Indian people taste like Kurry, Asians taste like Chinese food, Arabs taste like Kabsa...etc.

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(June 7, 2020 at 7:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm pretty sure Winter Hold didn't blame all white people. That is all.

White supremacists are called "white"; that's why I mainly refer to them like so.
Like there are no Black "white supremacists".

(June 7, 2020 at 9:56 pm)WinterHold Wrote: That's a very ugly face of America that we never saw. If whites were treated like that; then how did the poor African slaves treated?

Obviously much better than in Islamic countries

Quote:Black Africans were transported to the Islamic empire across the Sahara to Morocco and Tunisia from West Africa, from Chad to Libya, along the Nile from East Africa, and up the coast of East Africa to the Persian Gulf. This trade had been well entrenched for over 600 years before Europeans arrived, and had driven the rapid expansion of Islam across North Africa.

By the time of the Ottoman Empire, the majority of slaves were obtained by raiding in Africa. Russian expansion had put an end to the source of "exceptionally beautiful" female and "brave" male slaves from the Caucasians -- the women were highly prized in the harem, the men in the military. The great trade networks across North Africa were as much to do with the safe transportation of slaves as other goods. An analysis of prices at various slave markets shows that eunuchs fetched higher prices than other males, encouraging the castration of slaves before export.
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-role-of-is...very-44532

The only thing worse than a Black Lives Matter protest is to not be able to have a Black Lives Matter protest through fear of the ruling theocracy making their problems simply disappear.
Same shit for the CCP.

Yeah, the west is the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry basket. But it will always be inherently slightly net sum better than any/all other types of govt.
Who's gonna get us to Mars one day? (and maybe ultimately save the human race). The western mindset. All the others are too busy either killing each other or too busy pointing out all the flaws in the west.

(June 8, 2020 at 12:02 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(June 7, 2020 at 9:56 pm)WinterHold Wrote: That's a very ugly face of America that we never saw. If whites were treated like that; then how did the poor African slaves treated?

Obviously much better than in Islamic countries

Quote:Black Africans were transported to the Islamic empire across the Sahara to Morocco and Tunisia from West Africa, from Chad to Libya, along the Nile from East Africa, and up the coast of East Africa to the Persian Gulf. This trade had been well entrenched for over 600 years before Europeans arrived, and had driven the rapid expansion of Islam across North Africa.

By the time of the Ottoman Empire, the majority of slaves were obtained by raiding in Africa. Russian expansion had put an end to the source of "exceptionally beautiful" female and "brave" male slaves from the Caucasians -- the women were highly prized in the harem, the men in the military. The great trade networks across North Africa were as much to do with the safe transportation of slaves as other goods. An analysis of prices at various slave markets shows that eunuchs fetched higher prices than other males, encouraging the castration of slaves before export.
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-role-of-is...very-44532

White mens' fear of/homoerotic obsession with black masculinity/sexuality often resulted in the castration of male slaves during antebellum slavery.
And plenty of shit even sicker shit than that.

FYI, is all.

(June 7, 2020 at 7:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm pretty sure Winter Hold didn't blame all white people. That is all.

We should blame white people - but only the guilty ones.

Same goes for all other groups.....

I do blame a lot of white people, though.

(June 8, 2020 at 8:04 am)Eleven Wrote: I do blame a lot of white people, though.

Which  ones?

(June 8, 2020 at 8:16 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(June 8, 2020 at 8:04 am)Eleven Wrote: I do blame a lot of white people, though.

Which  ones?

The bigoted whitey's, clearly.

I will actually agree that trump did make more of the dirty iceberg visible, but you can’t fix a problem you don’t see. I think that’s the only redeeming quality I can find in his presidency. Americans voted him in because that wanted change, now they see the need for a lot more change, I’m all for that. A shame what it took to get us here though.

The historic minority of americans who voted for him wanted him to build a wall, not change™.