(June 8, 2020 at 1:49 pm)Drich Wrote:

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(June 8, 2020 at 11:40 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Ever tried asking god about antifa, drich?

you ever researched anything? why would i go to less than a Tartary source when unfiltered primary source material is available? To be fair, does any here have 20 years or more in antifa?

So, no?  Or yes, and god said no?

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(June 8, 2020 at 11:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: ..or...your man is incompetent.

..or.... not... local and state problems do not a bad president make.. it means you have inept governors and mayors. which all seem to be democratic states (the one on fire, and being looted.)

Yes, we know we know.  Neither you nor your man take any responsibility. Case in point.

(June 8, 2020 at 2:04 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:i literally cut and pasted my quote. show me otherwise or apologize to me

I directly quoted from the wikipedia article  YOU CITED on this very thread  and even linked it on this very thread  . FAKE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH IT SAID ACTUALLY WHAT HE SAID IT SAID . So apologize to him you liar .

dummy.. The contents of your post is not what is being discussed. are you too f'ing stupid to see that? if not why open your mouth and argue something not being discussed?  I quoted a full paragraph then highlighted the points that proved him wrong. Now douche bag is saying i cut and pasted my quote. I DID NOT. i get sick of dealing with self righteous people who come at you off topic.

He may have won those awards in the past, but that’s not the issue. The issue is: what is he doing for race relations now? Linus Pauling won a Nobel for Chemistry in 1954 for his pioneering work in biochemistry. And after that, he got a bug up his ass about Vitamin C and devoted the rest of his life to pursuing bullshit lines of inquiry about the effectiveness of Vitamin C. Another Nobel winning biochemist, Kary Mullis, wins in 1993 for creating the PCR, one of the most important tools in the field. Afterward, he ends up denying HIV causes AIDS and claiming he had a close encounter with a glowing green alien raccoon.

In the early days, he may well have done what he could to help race relations. But now, we have a president who defends white supremacists, calls Mexicans rapists and thieves, tells congresswomen of color to go back to where they came if they don’t like his policies (even though 3 out of the 4 women in question were born in the US), uses a pandemic to race-bait, and tweets out phrases historically associated with cops who attacked civil rights protesters.

If those old awards are supposed to reflect views he currently holds, you’re going to have to acknowledge that there’s a contradiction between that and what he’s done for the past couple years.

On a more personal note, one of my favorite films is Roman Polanski’s Repulsion. It’s a film about a young woman being haunted by her past traumas, and I don’t think there’s a film of that era that gives the viewer such a vivid insight into what such trauma does to people. And yet, 12 years after this film was made, he was arrested for visiting the same traumas on a 13-year-old girl as the film heavily implies his heroine went through, and he’s since admitted to it. Because of that, I’m not going to deny his crimes, even as I admire his art. I accept that there’s a contradiction here, and if there’s a difference in this case, it’s that it’s a lot easier to make hollow words and gestures of racial togetherness when it’s expected of you than it is to take an unflinching look at the trauma of sexual assault when nobody else is, so it’s a lot easier for me to think in Trump’s case, it’s just a PR thing.

Also, the Heritage Foundation is not a trustworthy source of information.

(June 8, 2020 at 1:29 pm)tackattack Wrote: Trump’s “people” are rich business men. He does only seem to care about them and the color of their money, IMO.

lowest unemployment rather for black people ever. he has more black educational opportunities ever. lowest unemployment for all minorities ever. not only that the income gap is closing.. here is an offical list:

• most 4 million jobs created since election.
  
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  
• We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
  
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
  
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
  
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
  
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
  
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
  
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
  
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
  
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
  
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
  
• Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
  
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
  
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
  
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
  
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
  
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
  
• As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
  
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
  
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
  
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
  
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
  
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
  
• My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
  
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
  
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
  
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
  
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  
• We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
  
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
  
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
  
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
  
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
  
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
  
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
  
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
  
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
  
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
  
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
  
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
  
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
  
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
  
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
  
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
  
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
  
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
  
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
  
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
  
• We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
  

all of this with a house dead set in trying to execute a coup anyway they can. Imagine if he has the support of the house and senate. 

Trump first and formost in an a america first president the last one we had was regan the last 5 were globalist, which is why no matter who was elected america was in a down spiral. why jobs were leaving why dollar was loosing value while we declined in infrastructure and riots, and then a never ending war. why?  because if american is so indebt to the Chinese or whom ever and if our rights have been taken away our country would have to forfeit to some greater world power. there is not other reason than to spend more in a new green deal than their is money on the planet other than to force compliance.. or have the Chinese move in. been to the Bahamas lately notice the names of the banks and the new construction??

1.You cited  a Wikipedia article .

2. Fake claimed that article said X 

3. You denied this 

4. I pointed out the wikipedia article you cited says what Fake said it says and it does 

5. You are a liar

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And bunch of White house talking points

(June 8, 2020 at 1:32 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Having a modern day equivalent of a group that existed for exactly two years back in the 30s  is not the same as "having them around since then". It's not even an equivalent, by the way. It was inspired by the old one, but is still different..

You are stupid beyond belief.

it can be said the neo nazis , an organization who been around since the original national workers socialist group? being made up of the same ideals symbols ideologies and even some of the same people originally.

Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive and implement the ideology of Nazism. Neo-Nazis seek to employ their ideology to promote hatred and attack minorities, or in some cases to create a fascist state.[1][2] It is a global phenomenon, with organized representation in many countries and international networks. It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, xenophobia, ableism, homophobia, anti-Romanyism, antisemitism, anti-communism and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism

If this is not the same or the modern equivalent of then why is it still considered Nazism? neo-nazism is infact the legacy of the third reich. as the modern day seeks to model itself after what was. the same can be said with antifa. they took the ideology, they took the tactics, they are using riots politically and even do so under the antifa flag. they did this just like the neo Nazi did. to argue this is to willfully turn a blind eye to history and what is comming for you antifites. which i would remain silent just to hear what Guantanamo bay is like this time of year.

Blah blah blah
Now you are trying to drown us in (more) BS

You were wrong and so are either very stupid or a liar..

(June 8, 2020 at 2:26 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 1.You cited  a Wikipedia article .

2. Fake claimed that article said X 

3. You denied this 

4. I pointed out the wikipedia article you cited says what Fake said it says and it does 

5. You are a liar

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And bunch of White house talking points

1. i cited a wiki article

2. i claimed the article said X

3. was challenged on it and i posted on post number 21 a cut and paste of what the article said, and then jumbo tron-ed the actual words for stupid MF-ers such as yourself who get lost in more than two sentences at a time. So you could see what i said was true.

4. posting my original claim again so you can see how twisted you mind is and how you changed what i said to fit your own narrative. (which is ok for you progressive types as things like documented truth mean nothing so long as you can still call people names)

4a the orginal quote: 

drich Wrote:....antifa? (which btw is a group who has been around since the nazi days of Germany as they were the communist german sect who has lots of power players and influence like Russia backing them)

douche bag Wrote:Wrong, completely wrong, like usual.
Wont even comment the rest of your impossibly stupid BS.

Well i'm going to leave what i wrote up. i did make a mistake or in your words lie. I quoted the wrong source. i started with this one and like i said have 3 available and must have given you the wrong tag for the quote i pulled. i apologize my mistake. that said the data is still correct. what more this wiki page ties the antifa movement to the original as well. so there is that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Un...te_note-45
my quote comes from the movement section

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(June 8, 2020 at 2:53 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Blah blah blah
Now you are trying to drown us in (more) BS

You were wrong and so are either very stupid or a liar..

i just quoted the wrong source. this one completely agrees. even goes father by linking antifa and neo nazis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(Un...te_note-45

Using similar tactics 

Using the same name 

And not liking fascists 

Does not make you the same group, And no one to my knowledge gives a damn if Neo Nazi's are directly linnked too the third reich they are assholes even without it .

More bull.

Modem Antifa is not around since Nazi days , dumbass.Its not even the same kinda "group", idiot. You are not even wrong.

Pointing to a different modern Antifa dies not make you less wrong, just demonstrates your ignorance