(June 12, 2020 at 11:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 12, 2020 at 5:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: What has that got to do with this - other than to serve as a distraction?

Challenge - pick any major city in the US - and compare the number of black men killed by police with the number killed by other black men.

Then bring those numbers back and show me I am wrong - and I will gladly admit I am wrong.

That IS what we are talking about - black men fearing being killed by police - my contention is they have more to fear from other black men than the police.

Prove me wrong.

Prove what wrong? Your the one slinging a false distraction. I’m not great at math, but if “black on black crime” is no more or less than white on white crime, or Hispanic on Hispanic crime, then why are you even talking about it? If all races kill each other at about the same rate, but unarmed black men are a third more likely to be killed by police than any other race, what does that tell you, OLB? 

Now, putting objective facts aside, let’s talk about this ridiculous false dichotomy you’ve presented where a black man has to either be afraid of other black men, or the police. Black communities are made up of people, believe it or not. “The black community” isn’t some singular hive mind. Take your racist bullshit and peddle it elsewhere.

Ahhh. ... Here of course is the "you're a racist card".

Yes... Black.communities are made out of people... Thank you for that insightful pronouncement...


What the fuck do you think police are made out of?

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Did you read the title of this thread?

Statistics.

The numbers?


More black people are killed by black people (civilian people) than by cops. Period. End of fact.

Yes - white people are also killed by white people (civilian people also) than by cops.

I never said otherwise.

My point is people are not looking at the statistics - they base their FEARS on something else....

But YOU dear heart - had to go out of your way to make it a white vs black issue -

And then you DARE to call me racist.

Really.... That's aweful motherfucking interesting....

Statistically speaking the odds of me struck and killed by an asteroid are roughly 1 in 250,000. Which may seem staggering, unless you are that 1, then your chances of being struck and killed is 100 percent.

OLB, we can't argue with statistics!

But what's your point

Blacks are inherently more violent?
Blacks are more uncivilized?

Help me out here?
What exactly is your point?

just asking a question! don't shoot the messenger for God's sake!

*shoots blindly*

(June 12, 2020 at 7:37 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Is a young black man more likely to be killed by police or by other black men?

From my observations - in Michigan - we see shooting daily - but it never makes national news. Unless it is a cop. Then it's "a story".

What am I missing?

You have to ask the right questions first, OP.

First of all, what exactly are you trying to analyze?

(June 12, 2020 at 7:37 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Is a young black man more likely to be killed by police or by other black men?

From my observations - in Michigan - we see shooting daily - but it never makes national news. Unless it is a cop. Then it's "a story".

What am I missing?

Why does it matter?

Cops are still racist.

Not that that matters if God doesn't care about racism. It's still a fact that cops are racist, though.

(June 13, 2020 at 2:01 am)ignoramus Wrote: OLB, we can't argue with statistics!

But what's your point

Blacks are inherently more violent?
Blacks are more uncivilized?

Help me out here?
What exactly is your point?

just asking a question! don't shoot the messenger for God's sake!

Unfounded fear.

It's a bit like (example not to scale) a guy who is terrified of swimming in the ocean because he is scared of sharks. But he's perfectly comfortable on the drive to the besch.

This is statistically speaking totally illogical - because your statistcal likelyhood of being killed by a shark is dwarfed by the likelyhood of you dying in a car wreck on the way to the beach.


Sure there are asshole cops who hate blacks - I can relate.

I rode motorcycles - with long hair and beard and the usual scruffy biker type apparel for years - back when it wasn't as mainstream as it is today - and got hassled by cops who hated bikers. I had cops do a fast u-turn to pull me over when I was obeying all traffic rules. DYB - driving while biker. I spent a weekend in jail in California for absolutely no reason at all. (My one time in jail) I get it.

I have been refused service in resuraunts and denied hotel accomodations - simply because of how I look.

I get it.

But it didn't make me fear cops. Assholes are everywhere in society. They aren't all cops.

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(June 13, 2020 at 5:44 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote:

(June 12, 2020 at 7:37 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Is a young black man more likely to be killed by police or by other black men?

From my observations - in Michigan - we see shooting daily - but it never makes national news. Unless it is a cop. Then it's "a story".

What am I missing?

Why does it matter?

Cops are still racist.

Not that that matters if God doesn't care about racism. It's still a fact that cops are racist, though.

Especially the black ones - right?

(June 13, 2020 at 6:02 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Especially the black ones - right?

The white cops are racist to the black non-cops.

(June 13, 2020 at 6:22 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote:

(June 13, 2020 at 6:02 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Especially the black ones - right?

The white cops are racist to the black non-cops.

Again, sweeping generalization.

(June 13, 2020 at 6:28 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(June 13, 2020 at 6:22 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: The white cops are racist to the black non-cops.

Again, sweeping generalization.

No.

It would be a sweeping generalization if and only if I said that 'all the white cops are racist to all the black non-cops'.