The longer this all plays out the more it seems floyd was just the spark. because seriously everyone agrees the cop should be prosecuted for murder. So if everyone is on the same page to whom is this civil unrest helping? To me this just seems like a generation or two who has never been told no/doesn't know how to live and loose/how to live when they don't get what they want now. it's like we have a generation of spoiled brats who were not properly disciplined, and who have no respect for authority. Look at Chaz.. look at their list of demands. none of it helps Floyd none of it helps the people who have died in these riots nor the people who have lost everything. This seems more like an anti government/trump cue attempt than anything else. Seriously they tried to get him with Russia collusion, we now finding out it was all fabricated by the 'swamp' he is trying to drain, they try to get him with scandals, we found out they were out right lying. they try to get him with impeachment and fail over and over and over again.. they can't get what they want now they are throwing a temper tantrum. 

If you look at the 60s and the baby boomers they too were generation who were not disciplined in masse because alot of the returning vets sought to spoil their children because of the war and most of them grew up during the great depression with nothing. from that spawned a generation of worthless hippies. now we seeming have another generation of worthless people who destroy and break things and disrupt
 lives when they don't get their way. Thoughts?

This was the straw that broke the camels back after centuries of systemic abuses by the police and right leaning government. This is about the fact that black people risk death every time they go out in the US, not from criminals, but from the police.
In England we are well aware of this. The US's racism is one of your nations defining features, along with obesity, evil evangelicalism and not knowing anything about the wider world.

(June 19, 2020 at 11:54 am)Drich Wrote: The longer this all plays out the more it seems floyd was just the spark. because seriously everyone agrees the cop should be prosecuted for murder. So if everyone is on the same page to whom is this civil unrest helping? To me this just seems like a generation or two who has never been told no/doesn't know how to live and loose/how to live when they don't get what they want now. it's like we have a generation of spoiled brats who were not properly disciplined, and who have no respect for authority. Look at Chaz.. look at their list of demands. none of it helps Floyd none of it helps the people who have died in these riots nor the people who have lost everything. This seems more like an anti government/trump cue attempt than anything else. Seriously they tried to get him with Russia collusion, we now finding out it was all fabricated by the 'swamp' he is trying to drain, they try to get him with scandals, we found out they were out right lying. they try to get him with impeachment and fail over and over and over again.. they can't get what they want now they are throwing a temper tantrum. 

If you look at the 60s and the baby boomers they too were generation who were not disciplined in masse because alot of the returning vets sought to spoil their children because of the war and most of them grew up during the great depression with nothing. from that spawned a generation of worthless hippies. now we seeming have another generation of worthless people who destroy and break things and disrupt
 lives when they don't get their way. Thoughts?

Wow, you are so behind the curve. An Asshole named James Earl Ray started the spark.  The fact morons like you haven't caught up is irrelevant 

OF FUCKING COURSE FLOYD WAS  A SPARK! But he was not the first spark. Maybe white ignorance is the culprit?

When this is all over, no one will admit to having ever supported it.

A year from now, we'll be treated to Driches neverending list of complaints about white supremacy, and the many failures of trumpism.

(June 19, 2020 at 11:54 am)Drich Wrote: The longer this all plays out the more it seems floyd was just the spark. because seriously everyone agrees the cop should be prosecuted for murder. So if everyone is on the same page to whom is this civil unrest helping? To me this just seems like a generation or two who has never been told no/doesn't know how to live and loose/how to live when they don't get what they want now. it's like we have a generation of spoiled brats who were not properly disciplined, and who have no respect for authority. Look at Chaz.. look at their list of demands. none of it helps Floyd none of it helps the people who have died in these riots nor the people who have lost everything. This seems more like an anti government/trump cue attempt than anything else. Seriously they tried to get him with Russia collusion, we now finding out it was all fabricated by the 'swamp' he is trying to drain, they try to get him with scandals, we found out they were out right lying. they try to get him with impeachment and fail over and over and over again.. they can't get what they want now they are throwing a temper tantrum. 

If you look at the 60s and the baby boomers they too were generation who were not disciplined in masse because alot of the returning vets sought to spoil their children because of the war and most of them grew up during the great depression with nothing. from that spawned a generation of worthless hippies. now we seeming have another generation of worthless people who destroy and break things and disrupt
 lives when they don't get their way. Thoughts?

So...you’re blaming black people who are speaking out against brutality for being brutalized in the first place?

Never met anyone with such a tin ear about racism.

Boru

(June 19, 2020 at 12:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 19, 2020 at 11:54 am)Drich Wrote: The longer this all plays out the more it seems floyd was just the spark. because seriously everyone agrees the cop should be prosecuted for murder. So if everyone is on the same page to whom is this civil unrest helping? To me this just seems like a generation or two who has never been told no/doesn't know how to live and loose/how to live when they don't get what they want now. it's like we have a generation of spoiled brats who were not properly disciplined, and who have no respect for authority. Look at Chaz.. look at their list of demands. none of it helps Floyd none of it helps the people who have died in these riots nor the people who have lost everything. This seems more like an anti government/trump cue attempt than anything else. Seriously they tried to get him with Russia collusion, we now finding out it was all fabricated by the 'swamp' he is trying to drain, they try to get him with scandals, we found out they were out right lying. they try to get him with impeachment and fail over and over and over again.. they can't get what they want now they are throwing a temper tantrum. 

If you look at the 60s and the baby boomers they too were generation who were not disciplined in masse because alot of the returning vets sought to spoil their children because of the war and most of them grew up during the great depression with nothing. from that spawned a generation of worthless hippies. now we seeming have another generation of worthless people who destroy and break things and disrupt
 lives when they don't get their way. Thoughts?

Wow, you are so behind the curve. An Asshole named James Earl Ray started the spark.  The fact morons like you haven't caught up is irrelevant 

OF FUCKING COURSE FLOYD WAS  A SPARK! But he was not the first spark. Maybe white ignorance is the culprit?

Actually, a group of assholes known collectively as The Founding Fathers are a helluva lot more responsible than James Earl Ray.

Boru

Funny that you use the word "think", it's painfully obvious that you've never done it.

It was never just about Floyd. It's about the fact that every year, hundreds of black people die in circumstances similar to Floyd, maybe not by a publicly-filmed 8-minute, 46-second knee choke, but still dead at the hands of police for reasons that are often trivial (note: while overall, white people may make up the absolute majority of those killed by cops, the fact remains that black people are still killed at a higher rate than white people, about 6.6 per million vs 2.5 per million; scroll down on the Mapping Police Violence to see the statistics), and, on an even broader scope, the racist society that helps foster the problem. And here's a sort of primer into the phoenomenon of systemic racism in America:




And here's a video by Three Arrows that goes into more detail, debunking many of Ben Shapiro's arguments against the existence of systemic racism:




You can argue about exceptions, even from your own experience, but bear in mind: A) The occasional exception doesn't undermine the concept as a whole, and B) the challenges of being half-Korean aren't the same as the challenges of being black.

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Seriously, thinking it was ever just about Floyd would require you living under a rock since at least Obama’s second term, and is as absurd as thinking the French Revolution was about some guy in the court of Louis XVI losing his keys.

I will support any actions which will stabilize the bell curve and bring prosperity back to the middle class.
At the moment 40% of Americans don't have $400 for an emergency.

What went wrong? It's never been this bad. The riots were for George, but it has now snowballed to reveal a plethora of other gross injustices to the way of life for Mr average.
Mr average IS the backbone of every country. A major overhaul on a global scale is overdue. Greed and corruption is always the reason. Who's been there from the start?
Bankers. Now morphed into a legitimate sounding entity like The Federal Reserve Bank of America. They're not federal, they don't have any reserves and they don't represent the wellbeing of Americans.

Don't take the word of an ignoramus.

(June 19, 2020 at 11:54 am)Drich Wrote: The longer this all plays out the more it seems floyd was just the spark. because seriously everyone agrees the cop should be prosecuted for murder. So if everyone is on the same page to whom is this civil unrest helping?

They will get off or at best get a nominal sentence. This has all happened before and will likely happen again. The civil unrest is a statement that this will not be tolerated yet again.

Who does it benefit? Every person of colour who survives because some rambo cop thinks twice in the future before murdering them in cold blood.