Eleven years ago, at this hour, I was on the operating table having a bilateral mastectomy done and tissue expanders put in to start the reconstruction process. I was told I may have three years if I didn't do chemo and radiation. What I had was three years of pain and nerve damage that finally resolved. No chemo, no rads...still here.

One Argument that peddled by the right is the Martin Luther King hated socialism so black people should become conservatives . This is stupid for four reasons 

1. Martin Luther didn't hate socialism he didn't agree with the secular tenets of Communism

2. Martin Luther worked with Socialists 

3. Luther Agreed with Socialist and even Communists on critiques of Capitalism and Colonialism 

4. Who cares MLK was just a man . Black people probably shouldn't define politics by one mans beliefs

(October 26, 2020 at 3:56 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: One Argument that peddled by the right is the Martin Luther King hated socialism so black people should become conservatives . This is stupid for four reasons 

1. Martin Luther didn't hate socialism he didn't agree with the secular tenets of Communism

2. Martin Luther worked with Socialists 

3. Luther Agreed with Socialist and even Communists on critiques of Capitalism and Colonialism 

4. Who cares MLK was just a man . Black people probably shouldn't define politics by one mans beliefs

Are you talking about both Martin Luther and Martin Luther King?

They are two very different people.

(October 26, 2020 at 4:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 3:56 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: One Argument that peddled by the right is the Martin Luther King hated socialism so black people should become conservatives . This is stupid for four reasons 

1. Martin Luther didn't hate socialism he didn't agree with the secular tenets of Communism

2. Martin Luther worked with Socialists 

3. Luther Agreed with Socialist and even Communists on critiques of Capitalism and Colonialism 

4. Who cares MLK was just a man . Black people probably shouldn't define politics by one mans beliefs

Are you talking about both Martin Luther and Martin Luther King?

They are two very different people.

I clearly mean MLK because as i put his name in the opening sentence . The fact i don't use full name on all points doesn't mean much. Considering how would 14-15th century theologian object to philosophy that didn't exist when he was alive? And why would Conservatives use his hate for said philosophy to switch black people to Conservatism ? I'm not sure what bizarre leap of logic lead you to this strange conclusion of yours but i wasn't by reading what i wrote above .

(October 26, 2020 at 4:38 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 4:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Are you talking about both Martin Luther and Martin Luther King?

They are two very different people.

I clearly mean MLK because as i put his name in the opening sentence . The fact i don't use full name on all points doesn't mean much. Considering how would 14-15th century theologian object to philosophy that didn't exist when he was alive? And why would Conservatives use his hate for said philosophy to switch black people to Conservatism ? I'm not sure what bizarre leap of logic lead you to this strange conclusion of yours but i wasn't by reading what i wrote above .

No, it's not clear.

Try writing what you mean.  I am happy that you understand you but if you are trying to communicate with others it might do you well to speak clearly.

I thought it was a little muddled myself. It would have been clearer if you’d used ‘King’ after the opening paragraph.

I kind of agree with your general sentiment, though.

Boru

(October 26, 2020 at 5:11 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 4:38 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: I clearly mean MLK because as i put his name in the opening sentence . The fact i don't use full name on all points doesn't mean much. Considering how would 14-15th century theologian object to philosophy that didn't exist when he was alive? And why would Conservatives use his hate for said philosophy to switch black people to Conservatism ? I'm not sure what bizarre leap of logic lead you to this strange conclusion of yours but i wasn't by reading what i wrote above .

No, it's not clear.

Try writing what you mean.  I am happy that you understand you but if you are trying to communicate with others it might do you well to speak clearly.

Yes it was clear 

Again who in their right mind would think a 14th century theologian would be talking about communism or the opinion of a guy who literally supported slavery being used as a means to sway black people to Conservatism .

(October 26, 2020 at 5:36 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 5:11 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: No, it's not clear.

Try writing what you mean.  I am happy that you understand you but if you are trying to communicate with others it might do you well to speak clearly.

Yes it was clear 

Again who in their right mind would think a 14th century theologian would be talking about communism .A  guy who literally supported slavery being used as a means to sway black people to Conservatism .

Okay - you continue to babble and your bullshit will continue to be bullshit.

We have sort of agreed upon a common language on the forum and whatever it is that you are using...isn't it.

(October 26, 2020 at 5:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 5:36 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Yes it was clear 

Again who in their right mind would think a 14th century theologian would be talking about communism .A  guy who literally supported slavery being used as a means to sway black people to Conservatism .

Okay - you continue to babble and your bullshit will continue to be bullshit.

We have sort of agreed upon a common language on the forum and whatever it is that you are using...isn't it.

Okay - You can continue to babble your nonesense about being confused because you can't use basic reasoning 

We have an agreed upon notion of commonsense and logic ,And the idea a guy would be criticizing a philosophy that didn't exist when he was alive kind of defies that .

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Martin Luther vocal critic of a philosophy that wouldn't exist till hundreds of years after his death . Openly supported chattel slavery so he's clearly African American icon who's words hold huge sway over their populous


Martin Luther King Jr. An African American civil rights  icon and religious leader who lived during the cold war and was a critic of Communism. Because  you know because it existed when he was alive .

Now who could possibly have been talking about ?

(October 26, 2020 at 5:51 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(October 26, 2020 at 5:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Okay - you continue to babble and your bullshit will continue to be bullshit.

We have sort of agreed upon a common language on the forum and whatever it is that you are using...isn't it.

Okay - You can continue to babble your nonesense about being confused because you can't use basic reasoning 

We have an agreed upon notion of commonsense and logic ,And the idea a guy would be criticizing a philosophy that didn't exist when he was alive kind of defies that .

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Martin Luther vocal critic of a philosophy that wouldn't exist till hundreds of years after his death . Openly supported chattel slavery so he's clearly African American icon who's worlds hold huge sway over their populous

You holding onto your ignorance is my bliss.