(December 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Listen to these ethnocentric pieces of shit.  Telling us that we can't possibly understand the words of a god...unless we understand their language.

Go fuck yourselves.

Keep shouting. I suggest you start learning how to swallow it.

Truths aren't supposed to be easy to get, especially for people who are arrogant enough to attempt interpretations of texts they don't understand at all.

Said the pot.

Again go fuck yourself.

It's immediately risible that a god would communicate a thing in such a way that the possession of a single human language is the deciding factor between getting it right or wrong.

You're a bunch of pious racists, pieces of shit to the very last man woman and child. Accept that fact.

(December 10, 2020 at 4:57 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Again go fuck yourself.  

It's immediately risible that a god would communicate a thing in such a way that the possession of a single human language is the deciding factor between getting it right or wrong.

You're a bunch of pious racists, pieces of shit to the very last man woman and child.  Accept that fact.

There is something strange about this kind of objections ... how many candidate holy texts are there anyway ? There are none, the OT/NT may not contain a single word Jesus said. The Qur'an on the other hand was orally transmitted verbatim. 

There are millions of converts to Islam today who don't know much about Arabic, clearly language barriere wasn't that big of a problem.

(December 10, 2020 at 3:25 am)Grandizer Wrote: Obviously I don't agree with Winterhold that there's anything miraculous in these verses, but am not sure if this is even about an eclipse (how we understand it). It's some strange event (sun and moon being joined together) that's supposed to happen on Judgement Day.

Yes; It's doesn't seem about an eclipse because verse 8 already spoke about an eclipse; while verse 9 spoke about the different event of the moon and the sun getting joined together.

Scientifically. this scenario is well known and expected to happen when the sun turns into a Red Giant phase:

https://phys.org/news/2016-05-earth-surv...giant.html

Scientists are not sure yet whether the sun will swallow the moon or not; but the possibility still exists for the scenario where the sun swallows the moon or like the Quran said "(9) and the sun and the moon are brought together".

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(December 10, 2020 at 8:10 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Looks like magic book says all of the atheists will be in a black hole.  Choice.  I was worried that we might get stuck with muslims on alpha centauri.  Don't even know why I'd go through the trouble of making the trip if the place is filthy with the same sort of nuts as back home.   Glad that's cleared up.

It actually said this literally:

Quote:Sura 3, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 85 )   And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

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(December 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Listen to these ethnocentric pieces of shit.  Telling us that we can't possibly understand the words of a god...unless we understand their language.

Go fuck yourselves.

I don't know who lied to you and told you can't understand the Quran; there are so many websites that provide various translations in many languages, the best are:

quran.com
quran.ksu.edu.sa

Every verse is translated.
Please note that Muslims are more than 1.8 billion people from allover the world, and most are not even Arabs.

Just like I learned English, you can read the Quran.
Just like a Turk reads the Quran and understand it; so do you. Especially if it's already translated verse by verse in your native language.

But ignore any Hadith because these things are Arab myths; not Islamic facts.

There is no point in engaging simpletons in a serious conversation who take musings of a 7th century bedouin pedophile as absolute truths— unless of course it’s for one’s guilty pleasure self-amusement.

(December 10, 2020 at 4:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Keep shouting. I suggest you start learning how to swallow it.

Truths aren't supposed to be easy to get, especially for people who are arrogant enough to attempt interpretations of texts they don't understand at all.

You don't understand your own babble, as you contradict yourself time after time.  "Brought together" is your playmate's and your own interpretation.  "Brought together" in no way describes the expansion of the sun around it's own center to engulf the moon, because the center point of neither move.  Your sacred book is the work of an ignorant idiot, and there is nothing you can do the show otherwise.

Well @Ranjr, there's always repeating it over and over again, eventually it has to be true.

Please don't associate me with Klorophyll (who is MysticKnight's sock).
Notice how the topic deviated after his comment.

Focus on the OP and ignore this sock.

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Mystic Knight's sock; i.e Klorophyll:

Your Shiite institution has no place in my topics; sock.
You keep coming back and you keep haunting my topics like a freak; don't you have life troll?

get the fuck out, I ignored you a lot but I need to humiliate you freak once again to get rid of your haunting and sticking to my topics like a germ.
Get the fuck out, the place vomited you once, so have have some dignity and fuck off.


Didn't the CIA snuff your warlord Qasim Sulaimani ??

(December 11, 2020 at 2:47 am)WinterHold Wrote: Please don't associate me with Klorophyll (who is MysticKnight's sock).
Notice how the topic deviated after his comment.

Focus on the OP and ignore this sock.

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Mystic Knight's sock; i.e Klorophyll:

Your Shiite institution has no place in my topics; sock.
You keep coming back and you keep  haunting my topics like a freak; don't you have life troll?

get the fuck out, I ignored you a lot but I need to humiliate you freak once again to get rid of your haunting and sticking to my topics like a germ.
Get the fuck out, the place vomited you once, so have have some dignity and fuck off.


Didn't the CIA snuff your warlord Qasim Sulaimani ??

 

Not even two folks arguing about different magic books. Two folks aroung about the same (Or aspects their of) magic book.

Please Klorphyll and WinterHold, expand the horizons of we unbelievers.

 

 
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