(March 31, 2021 at 10:37 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 31, 2021 at 10:32 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Former CDC director says he thinks it came from the lab. Again, I'm agnostic on this, but this is pretty big news.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-lab-t...-evidence/

There is a conspiracy theory thread.

That would probably be a more appropriate place for this.

No conspiracy needed. The idea is that it leaked out by accident, not that the Chinese government conspired to do so.

Quote:No conspiracy theory needed. The idea is that it leaked out by accident, not that the Chinese government conspired to do so.

Nope it's a conspiracy theory 

Inventing new bullshit when your old bullshit is disproven just to maintain a narrative is the hallmark of conspiracy think.

(March 31, 2021 at 11:19 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:No conspiracy theory needed. The idea is that it leaked out by accident, not that the Chinese government conspired to do so.

Nope it's a conspiracy theory 

Inventing new bullshit when your old bullshit is disproven just to maintain a narrative is the hallmark of conspiracy think.

It's big enough news for every main stream media outlet to talk about it, and it's big enough for Sanjay Gupta to be interviewing the guy about it. If the former head of the CDC agreed with your views, you'd be bowing to his authority and using him to prove your views right. Since he, a well respected virologist, stepped outside of the official acceptable story, you now probably want him censored and erased from the internet or something because his speech is scary to you.

It's also a conspiracy that Australia formally requested an independent (non WHO) investigation into the origins of the coronavirus and has subsequently been on China's trade war hit list.
It never happened.

Quote:It's big enough news for every main stream media outlet to talk about it, 

Just because mainstream media promotes it does not negate my point 

Quote:and it's big enough for Sanjay Gupta to be interviewing the guy about it. 

Just because Sanjay Gupta promotes it does not negate my point 

Quote:If the former head of the CDC agreed with your views, you'd be bowing to his authority and using him to prove your views right.

Nope, his former position means nothing to me.

Quote: Since he, a well-respected virologist, stepped outside of the official acceptable story, you now probably want him censored and erased from the internet or something because his speech is scary to you.

There are consequences for spreading unfounded claims. Positions don't grant you immunity for your actions, And his not allowing someone to spread misinformation has nothing to do with fear. Quite the opposite. But that's the kind of disingenuous rhetoric I would expect from you.

There has been no natural source found yet either, so both conclusions are unfounded at the moment.

Quote:There has been no natural source found yet either, so both conclusions are unfounded at the moment.

If only I had said it was a natural source. Oh wait I didn't 

But which one takes the fewest assumptions to accept?

Well, all the "other" coronaviruses natural origins have not been questioned. Why this one now? Common sense and logic must prevail until further evidence comes to hand.
We're all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.

Biden's Secretary of State doesn't accept the WHO's report on the origins of the virus

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/world...igins.html

The Biden administration has expressed concern over the Chinese government’s role in drafting a forthcoming World Health Organization report about the source of the coronavirus pandemic.

“We’ve got real concerns about the methodology and the process that went into that report, including the fact that the government in Beijing apparently helped to write it,” Mr. Blinken said in an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Everybody is after their 15 minutes of fame. Yes, it could have come from the lab in Wuhan. Is there good evidence that it did? No, but on the other hand the Chinese government hasn't been very transparent. A more thorough investigation is warranted. But at the same time, it's false that no other potential vector has been identified. The market in Wuhan is fed by animal traffickers from the area where coronavirus samples in bats have been found, and provides a compelling counter-narrative to the lab theory.