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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 6, 2011 at 8:45 pm
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(November 6, 2011 at 11:04 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass about this but do you have any reliable numbers to back this up? I'm talking about statistics from studies that have not been influenced in any way by either a religious group or an atheist group (a group without any agenda but to take in data.
You raised a good point, I don't know if there are any statistics that have been done about this. However this forum is full of people who used to be Christians who are no Atheists. On somewhere like Christianforums.com there arent many who were once atheists and who were once Christians.
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 3:24 am
I would say that most atheists have a childish & therefore non understanding of what Christianity is, so ex Christian is in 99% of cases meaningless.
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 9:09 am
Right, because if you're an ex Christian you must not have understood Christianity. Whatever helps you sleep at night...
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm
(November 7, 2011 at 9:09 am)Faith No More Wrote: Right, because if you're an ex Christian you must not have understood Christianity. Whatever helps you sleep at night...
I don't have any numbers on this but there are people who have been deconverted by theology. I am one of them -and believe me I studied. I know more about Christianity than most pastors- and there is an individual in Austin TX who deconverted in divinity school. He has a tv talk show now http://www.atheist-experience.com/
As I said before I don't know if people like us are anomalies or not. We exist, but in what numbers I have no numbers to show.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm
(November 7, 2011 at 9:09 am)Faith No More Wrote: Right, because if you're an ex Christian you must not have understood Christianity. Whatever helps you sleep at night...
Uh well.
I disowned Christianity just not because of my ignorance nor misconceptions of Christianity[well, it may not case for most of former Christians], I left Christianity because of lack of evidence, baseless faith and burden of proof.
This Christians' retarded assertion that there is no former Christians, never was. Probably because they have belief with god being omniscient with our destiny and future.
I've been awake for 32 hours, and was about to take my nap. Blam! I had to reply. Thanks for insomnia, Faith No More.
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 2:55 pm
(November 7, 2011 at 3:24 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I would say that most atheists have a childish & therefore non understanding of what Christianity is, so ex Christian is in 99% of cases meaningless.
How better to comprehend childish fairy tales, frods?
You can pretend, like G-C does, that there is great wisdom in this shit but you are only fooling yourself.
We have dismissed it and moved on.
I mean really...what kind of demented mind takes shit like this seriously
Quote:Mark 3: 28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”
Oh, yeah G-C and those of his ilk.
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 3:22 pm
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm
The prosecution rests, your honor!
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm
(November 7, 2011 at 9:09 am)Faith No More Wrote: Right, because if you're an ex Christian you must not have understood Christianity. Whatever helps you sleep at night... You know I was thinking of you when you posted that right FNM  
You might be the rare exception. I didn't say 100% did I? I never have said "all atheists". I'm yet to be convinced, but I give you the benefit of the doubt. 
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RE: The unforgivable sin (long)
November 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Just giving you shit fr0d0 . And while I do appreciate the benefit of the doubt, I am not an ex christian. By the time I was old enough to have my own religious identity, age 12 for me, I had decided Christianity was not for me.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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