(May 9, 2021 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 8:02 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As TGN pointed out to me, most of your states have those laws, the tragedy being that they aren’t always enforced. Like the Georgia mum who left her two kids alone in the car, and one of the kids found her gun and killed the other one. No charges were filed, because the DA felt ‘the family has suffered enough.’

Utter bollocks.

Boru

Laws are not the problem. Production is.

Actually, I’d think sales would be the problem. That’s how they get in the hands of people who can’t properly handle the responsibility. And that’s probably where gun control laws would help.

(May 9, 2021 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 8:02 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As TGN pointed out to me, most of your states have those laws, the tragedy being that they aren’t always enforced. Like the Georgia mum who left her two kids alone in the car, and one of the kids found her gun and killed the other one. No charges were filed, because the DA felt ‘the family has suffered enough.’

Utter bollocks.

Boru

Laws are not the problem. Production is.

Nonsense. If production was ‘the problem’, then producing more guns would result in proportionately more gun deaths. It doesn’t, do it isn’t. 

Unenforced laws are a much larger part of the problem, since some people (but by no means all) will look at cases like the one I mentioned above and think that unsecured weapons and the tragedies that sometimes result from them carry no penalties.

Boru

(May 9, 2021 at 12:39 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: Laws are not the problem. Production is.

Actually, I’d think sales would be the problem. That’s how they get in the hands of people who can’t properly handle the responsibility. And that’s probably where gun control laws would help.

Even sales aren’t really the issue. It’s more the whole gun culture in the US than anything else.

Boru

(May 9, 2021 at 1:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 12:39 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Actually, I’d think sales would be the problem. That’s how they get in the hands of people who can’t properly handle the responsibility. And that’s probably where gun control laws would help.

Even sales aren’t really the issue. It’s more the whole gun culture in the US than anything else.

Boru

And I'm not even certain anything can actually be done about our toxic gun culture.

(May 9, 2021 at 12:39 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: Laws are not the problem. Production is.

Actually, I’d think sales would be the problem. That’s how they get in the hands of people who can’t properly handle the responsibility. And that’s probably where gun control laws would help.

Really?

What' s this law that predicts future behavior?

Every law that they seem to come up with is aimed squarely at the people who buy their guns legally and for the most part - are not the problem.

What is the point of making the law abiding folks fill out the same paperwork over and over - for every gun they purchase?

How many billion man hours do you have to waste before you realize you have not done ANYTHING to stop gun violence?

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(May 9, 2021 at 1:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 1:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Even sales aren’t really the issue. It’s more the whole gun culture in the US than anything else.

Boru

And I'm not even certain anything can actually be done about our toxic gun culture.

The toxicity us in the anti gun camp - where they seek to eliminate all firearms through backdoor methodology - to make it too expensive andvtoo inconvenient to own firearms - all the while loudly proclaiming "nobody is going to take away your guns"...

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(May 9, 2021 at 2:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 1:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And I'm not even certain anything can actually be done about our toxic gun culture.

The toxicity us in the anti gun camp - where they seek to eliminate all firearms through backdoor methodology - to make it too expensive andvtoo inconvenient to own firearms - all the while loudly proclaiming "nobody is going to take away your guns"...

And presumably misplaced paranoia (not even about politicians who favor gun control, but from a disproportionately large fear of the people who could potentially attack you if you weren’t packing) isn’t the slightest but toxic.

And the gun control laws, they’re less to predict future behavior and more to contain the problem. An imperfect solution, to be sure, but that’s what the point is.

Also, For the record, there is no real contradiction between saying “nobody’s coming to take your guns” and making it more expensive and inconvenient to own guns. Unless you think adding rules and regulations regarding firearms is the exact same thing as confiscating them, and, frankly, given how Crazy-wing your views have proven to be, I wouldn’t put it past you to believe exactly that.

(May 9, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 2:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The toxicity us in the anti gun camp - where they seek to eliminate all firearms through backdoor methodology - to make it too expensive andvtoo inconvenient to own firearms - all the while loudly proclaiming "nobody is going to take away your guns"...

And presumably misplaced paranoia (not even about politicians who favor gun control, but from a disproportionately large fear of the people who could potentially attack you if you weren’t packing) isn’t the slightest but toxic.

And the gun control laws, they’re less to predict future behavior and more to contain the problem. An imperfect solution, to be sure, but that’s what the point is.

Also, For the record, there is no real contradiction between saying “nobody’s coming to take your guns” and making it more expensive and inconvenient to own guns. Unless you think adding rules and regulations regarding firearms is the exact same thing as confiscating them, and, frankly, given how Crazy-wing your views have proven to be, I wouldn’t put it past you to believe exactly that.

" crazy- wing as my views have proven to be"?

Listen up you wet behind the ears maggot - your piddling fucking opinion is hardly "proof" of anything - except your childish belief in your own greatness.


Fucking.cunt.

(May 9, 2021 at 4:33 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 3:53 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And presumably misplaced paranoia (not even about politicians who favor gun control, but from a disproportionately large fear of the people who could potentially attack you if you weren’t packing) isn’t the slightest but toxic.

And the gun control laws, they’re less to predict future behavior and more to contain the problem. An imperfect solution, to be sure, but that’s what the point is.

Also, For the record, there is no real contradiction between saying “nobody’s coming to take your guns” and making it more expensive and inconvenient to own guns. Unless you think adding rules and regulations regarding firearms is the exact same thing as confiscating them, and, frankly, given how Crazy-wing your views have proven to be, I wouldn’t put it past you to believe exactly that.

" crazy- wing as my views have proven to be"?

Listen up you wet behind the ears maggot - your piddling fucking opinion is hardly "proof" of anything - except your childish belief in your own greatness.


Fucking.cunt.

When you resort to abuse, it’s a sign you’re losing the argument.

Boru

(May 9, 2021 at 1:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: Laws are not the problem. Production is.

Nonsense. If production was ‘the problem’, then producing more guns would result in proportionately more gun deaths. It doesn’t, do it isn’t. 

Unenforced laws are a much larger part of the problem, since some people (but by no means all) will look at cases like the one I mentioned above and think that unsecured weapons and the tragedies that sometimes result from them carry no penalties.

Boru

What? Our firearm laws fucking suck. I can go out right now, and buy a firearm. Pretty sure most sane people reading this would worry if I actually did. I have no record, no fellony so I litterally could. Fortunately I hate guns, and haven't touched one since my early 20s.

(May 9, 2021 at 5:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 9, 2021 at 1:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nonsense. If production was ‘the problem’, then producing more guns would result in proportionately more gun deaths. It doesn’t, do it isn’t. 

Unenforced laws are a much larger part of the problem, since some people (but by no means all) will look at cases like the one I mentioned above and think that unsecured weapons and the tragedies that sometimes result from them carry no penalties.

Boru

What? Our firearm laws fucking suck. I can go out right now, and buy a firearm. Pretty sure most sane people reading this would worry if I actually did. I have no record, no fellony so I litterally could. Fortunately I hate guns, and haven't touched one since my early 20s.

When you quote my posts and then respond to them, I’d very much appreciate it if your reply was in some way connected to what I actually wrote. Thank you in advance.

And yes - I’d worry if you bought a gun, but not for the reasons you’re probably imagining.

Boru