(June 17, 2021 at 2:17 pm)Drich Wrote: READ THIS IF NOTHING ELSE: again ive said this like 3 or 4 times now. you maybe describing the grid power arrangement as it typically is provided. what you fail to understand, what you are oblivious to is power off grid is supplied and consumed in different rates/configurations. while your judgement may have been fair if i were hard wired into a building permanently, but i am not. the system and all the power and management system is self contained to the truck. a self contained system using similar parts to the ones i left links to that produce manipulate and uses 220vac 3 phase. while at the same time taking availed line voltage at three phase, boosting it up or bring it down enough to charge batteries and run the unit at the same time.

Of course I'm describing nominal voltage specified by standards.  Why wouldn't I?  Why wouldn't you?  Because you made it all up, just like the lie about teaching engineers.  Certainly, what we measure at a terminal will vary due to loads.  But that's not what we design systems and equipment around.  Also, nominal 3 phase delta connected voltage is 230 not 220, which is the line to line single phase voltage that runs a household dryer or residential condensing unit.

You still refuse to answer the question because you are full of shit.  Here's a fourth chance:  What was innovative about the system that made it patentable?

(June 17, 2021 at 2:58 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(June 17, 2021 at 2:17 pm)Drich Wrote: READ THIS IF NOTHING ELSE: again ive said this like 3 or 4 times now. you maybe describing the grid power arrangement as it typically is provided. what you fail to understand, what you are oblivious to is power off grid is supplied and consumed in different rates/configurations. while your judgement may have been fair if i were hard wired into a building permanently, but i am not. the system and all the power and management system is self contained to the truck. a self contained system using similar parts to the ones i left links to that produce manipulate and uses 220vac 3 phase. while at the same time taking availed line voltage at three phase, boosting it up or bring it down enough to charge batteries and run the unit at the same time.

Of course I'm describing nominal voltage specified by standards.

but your not.. not complete standards any way, as 230vac 3 phase is a standard voltage. there is a distinction you are missing or unaware of, and that is the standard you are describing is referred to as line voltage. this is what is supplied by the power company. this however does not represent all the different ways power is generated or manipulated. as you can see 220vac 3 phase is indeed a well used and commercially available power source and supply.

Quote:  Why wouldn't I?  Why wouldn't you? 

because when power is generated off grid or used off grid, in non grid conforming power ranges. i used 220vac because THE ITALIAN Refrigeration company build a unit compatible with the NICOLA TESLA GENERATOR's out put I originally described!! this generator put out massive amounts of power in very erratic voltages and frequencies because it was tied to an output shaft on a transmission/pto, and it originally supplied 220vac 3 phase after it had run though several 'filters'. again all in my original post sport.. seeming you were too impatient to read it so you could start typing out the conclusion your dunning Krueger-ed mind gave you before i wrote anything.
here is a link to the generator the original system was designed to work with.
https://aurasystems.com/auragen.html

Quote:Because you made it all up, just like the lie about teaching engineers.  

someone had to write the manuals on what i created. what else or who better to get this info from and put it to paper that the project lead, and the guys who draw out the manuals? not to mention the 150 so dealers who were expected to sell and service this equipment. so rather than me fly all over the country and to Italy and back. we held a huge class at mid fl tech which was perfect as they had teaching facilities that had a classroom and adjoining work shop area, all under heat and AC. we just so happened to find this facility because my father was the director of automotive education there, he's been there 30+ years. we in fact had several classes there. once a year. and yes i was the primary instructor.

Quote:Certainly, what we measure at a terminal will vary due to loads.  But that's not what we design systems and equipment around.  Also, nominal 3 phase delta connected voltage is 230 not 220, which is the line to line single phase voltage that runs a household dryer or residential condensing unit.

again sport, if you are not smart enough to understand that line voltage does not apply when voltage is not being supplied by a power company, and you are too proud to look at any of the link i provided that proves your knowledge 'antiquated' at best (more than likely a google search as you are extremely limited in how you are able to discuss or defend your position) then you are not the person who can look at what i have done and judge it in any way. let me dumb that down for you.. if you too dumb to learn anything new about how electricity is created and supplied.. and all you are willing to discuss is how things were done for the last 100 years... then you are far to stupid to hope to understand the changes i made to make what would be the equivalent 230vac 3phase 10 horse power system run 8 hours @ 35*F on 12vdc batteries. let alone smart enough to understand why. while my agreement will not allow me to discuss specifics i can speak in generalities and even share components that were similar to the ones i used.

This is the death nail to your stupidity, This proves you have a google search understanding of the topic being discussed you get that right? the fact that i was able to produce and demonstrate the power i was forced to work with, while not conventional line voltage does indeed exist off grid and i was able to provide hundreds of examples of electrical components that require this voltage. because again moron we are talking about powering a refrigeration system on a truck not plugged into the grid, so it has to makes it's own power.

Quote:You still refuse to answer the question because you are full of shit.

perfect example of a dunning-kruger-ed mind at work.. sweetheart the question has been answered.. you just don't understand your too f*cking stupid to understand the answer. do you understand now?

Quote:  Here's a fourth chance:  What was innovative about the system that made it patentable?

here is your problem.. if all you know about electricity is the line voltage you looked up.. how can you wrap your mind around the off grid system i created?

you know what..
here is the orginal system concept with the tesla generator
https://vdocuments.site/zanotti-efz-hybr...ology.html
in english:
https://www.yumpu.com/it/document/read/1...gy-zanotti
here is a old facebook page with all that stuff and more in it:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Zanotti-of-O...988/posts/
the orange cab smith electric truck was my first production model, this was in the bronx. this is where i took the original efz with the tesla gen off, and put my system on. this truck was 1 of 4.
the other two or three of the efz are with the orginal generator. the one in the bay door is at the school i taught at. the rest of the pics are of the other systems i have research and developed over the years. this is what my factory/facility does now. building refrigerated vans.

here are some pics of the school: https://issuu.com/nancymarchini/docs/zanotti_group2013 pages 29-29 for the electric unit and 36-37 for the school.

i'm sure i wasted my time providing these pics because you will just pretend they don't exist anyway.. but here again more proof

Who did the research for you, you dimwitted fool?

important note. zanotti (the refrigeration system) nor the power management system is available anymore in the us. my understanding these companies have since been bought out that the tech i produced has been intergraded into some other companies system. meaning this is not an advertisement as nothing being discussed is for sale or is available. after 2015 i believe

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(June 18, 2021 at 12:23 pm)no one Wrote: Who did the research for you, you dimwitted fool?

just me.. and yo mama

for reelz yo.. this is one of the things that is proof of God for me.. I know i can do a great many things based on knowledge and experience. this however was far above and beyond me. again just like i did at school, i listened to the engineers and electrically drew out a universal diagram of the problems they were having. (why the power needs were not being met and the power requirement for this application.) then stuff came to me in my mind from an outside source, one piece at a time. 

So i had the battery guys drawings on one side and the refrigeration requirements on the other side, and then drew in the components needed one at a time and electrically connected everything while everyone was discussing where to go to lunch. i passed my drawing to the battery guys and asked would this work for them... and then to the refrigeration guys and asked if it would work.. both said yes but were upset with scraping everything they had been doing the last few months. they said it would take 6 months to test and put together a prototype of what i drew out.. 

what's more i knew that a local surplus store had everything i needed so i told them i could have a working prototype by monday (it was a friday) for 200.00 (using 1980s and 1990s governement junk parts)

Yet another miracle, clear evidence of the abrahamic god, just like all of those found car keys.

Yes god won't beam the cure for cancer into the heads of doctors. But he will help Derptch make domestic electronics 

(June 18, 2021 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote: here is the orginal system concept with the tesla generator
https://vdocuments.site/zanotti-efz-hybr...ology.html
in english:
https://www.yumpu.com/it/document/read/1...gy-zanotti
here is a old facebook page with all that stuff and more in it:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Zanotti-of-O...988/posts/
the orange cab smith electric truck was my first production model, this was in the bronx. this is where i took the original efz with the tesla gen off, and put my system on. this truck was 1 of 4.
the other two or three of the efz are with the orginal generator. the one in the bay door is at the school i taught at. the rest of the pics are of the other systems i have research and developed over the years. this is what my factory/facility does now. building refrigerated vans.

here are some pics of the school: https://issuu.com/nancymarchini/docs/zanotti_group2013 pages 29-29 for the electric unit and 36-37 for the school.

i'm sure i wasted my time providing these pics because you will just pretend they don't exist anyway.. but here again more proof

There is no advantage to using 220 VAC 3P  over 230.  The equipment would pull 4% more current while consuming the same amount of power. You're dancing around like a fool trying to cover a stupid mistake all while avoiding the simple question that you most certainly have not answered.  The answer doesn't require links, especially ones that provide no specs, or are sales brochures.  The answer comes from the first paragraph of the patent application.  Just link to that. 

That's all I want to know.  I don't care about the workplace drama or your Rainman episode while pretending to read schematics.  You want to make this a pissing contest so you could avoid the fact that you were just a refrigeration tech, not the inventor.  I don't care if you don't believe I'm a controls and instrumentation expert.  That I have a M.S.E.E.  You're a delusional fool.  You believe all kinds falsehoods, especially the ones you tell yourself. 

Two years ago, we received a grant to make a cold room from an old shipping container.  All we did was insulate it, install a window unit, modify it's internal temp sensor, toggle it on and off from a homespun controller, and power it with solar and batteries.  No genius required.  Pretty routing stuff and simple to explain.  We gave the container to a food co-op in a rural county.  That's the conversation I was hoping for.  Not your foolish mania and silly rants.

Coolbots ftw.

(June 18, 2021 at 1:45 pm)Ranjr Wrote:

(June 18, 2021 at 12:22 pm)Drich Wrote: here is the orginal system concept with the tesla generator
https://vdocuments.site/zanotti-efz-hybr...ology.html
in english:
https://www.yumpu.com/it/document/read/1...gy-zanotti
here is a old facebook page with all that stuff and more in it:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Zanotti-of-O...988/posts/
the orange cab smith electric truck was my first production model, this was in the bronx. this is where i took the original efz with the tesla gen off, and put my system on. this truck was 1 of 4.
the other two or three of the efz are with the orginal generator. the one in the bay door is at the school i taught at. the rest of the pics are of the other systems i have research and developed over the years. this is what my factory/facility does now. building refrigerated vans.

here are some pics of the school: https://issuu.com/nancymarchini/docs/zanotti_group2013 pages 29-29 for the electric unit and 36-37 for the school.

i'm sure i wasted my time providing these pics because you will just pretend they don't exist anyway.. but here again more proof

There is no advantage to using 220 VAC 3P  over 230.  The equipment would pull 4% more current while consuming the same amount of power. You're dancing around like a fool trying to cover a stupid mistake all while avoiding the simple question that you most certainly have not answered.  The answer doesn't require links, especially ones that provide no specs, or are sales brochures.  The answer comes from the first paragraph of the patent application.  Just link to that. 

That's all I want to know.  I don't care about the workplace drama or your Rainman episode while pretending to read schematics.  You want to make this a pissing contest so you could avoid the fact that you were just a refrigeration tech, not the inventor.  I don't care if you don't believe I'm a controls and instrumentation expert.  That I have a M.S.E.E.  You're a delusional fool.  You believe all kinds falsehoods, especially the ones you tell yourself. 

Two years ago, we received a grant to make a cold room from an old shipping container.  All we did was insulate it, install a window unit, modify it's internal temp sensor, toggle it on and off from a homespun controller, and power it with solar and batteries.  No genius required.  Pretty routing stuff and simple to explain.  We gave the container to a food co-op in a rural county.  That's the conversation I was hoping for.  Not your foolish mania and silly rants.

dear dummy.. because if you can not accept 220vac 3p exists, or do not still know why i used 220vac 3ph then sweetheart how are you going to wrap your mind around the power solution i created? Do you not understand if i am wasting time here with something i proved with many many brochures and links that all say this stuff exists on the market today.. that you are far too incompetent to understand what i did in what you think is an imaginary world.

let alone the industry specific refrigeration mods i made to optimise and sell this project

(June 18, 2021 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 18, 2021 at 1:45 pm)Ranjr Wrote: There is no advantage to using 220 VAC 3P  over 230.  The equipment would pull 4% more current while consuming the same amount of power. You're dancing around like a fool trying to cover a stupid mistake all while avoiding the simple question that you most certainly have not answered.  The answer doesn't require links, especially ones that provide no specs, or are sales brochures.  The answer comes from the first paragraph of the patent application.  Just link to that. 

That's all I want to know.  I don't care about the workplace drama or your Rainman episode while pretending to read schematics.  You want to make this a pissing contest so you could avoid the fact that you were just a refrigeration tech, not the inventor.  I don't care if you don't believe I'm a controls and instrumentation expert.  That I have a M.S.E.E.  You're a delusional fool.  You believe all kinds falsehoods, especially the ones you tell yourself. 

Two years ago, we received a grant to make a cold room from an old shipping container.  All we did was insulate it, install a window unit, modify it's internal temp sensor, toggle it on and off from a homespun controller, and power it with solar and batteries.  No genius required.  Pretty routing stuff and simple to explain.  We gave the container to a food co-op in a rural county.  That's the conversation I was hoping for.  Not your foolish mania and silly rants.

dear dummy.. because if you can not accept 220vac 3p exists, or do not still know why i used 220vac 3ph then sweetheart how are you going to wrap your mind around the power solution i created? Do you not understand if i am wasting time here with something i proved with many many brochures and links that all say this stuff exists on the market today.. that you are far too incompetent to understand what i did in what you think is an imaginary world.

let alone the industry specific refrigeration mods i made to optimise and sell this project

Can you not quote the patent you hold? What's the problem?