Last year, a couple months into the pandemic when it really exploded, I asked my late mother's physical therapist, who worked at here nursing home how many residents had died at in that time, he said 10. Well, it's been over a year later now, this weekend I went over to his house for a BBQ and again, asked him how many more had died since. He said he knew personally, 25, meaning those he in person gave therapy, but is sure the number is higher for those who didn't need therapy whom he never met in person. I can't imagine what doctors/nurses/ caretakers go through who work every day under pandemic conditions. I can only speculate that the reason he hasn't gone off the deep end is that he has a wife and kids and tons of pets for his own therapy, but he did say that is extremely mentally hard to deal with. 

I have every admiration for those who do that work.

Fight over mask mandate in a Seattle Ace Hardware

It will be mandatory for care home workers in England to have coronavirus vaccinations, British health minister Matt Hancock said on Wednesday, adding the government was considering whether the policy should be extended to healthcare workers too.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/england...021-06-16/

So now England wants its health care facilities to be short staffed, too. Wonderful.

Delta variant infecting mounting number of people in rural Kansas and Missouri
abcnews.go.com

Quote:The delta coronavirus variant is infecting a mounting number of people in rural Kansas and Missouri.

The variant, first detected in India in October, was upgraded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week from a "variant of interest" to a "variant of concern." The CDC estimates the delta variant accounts for about 10% of new cases in the U.S.

153 Hospital Workers Quit Or Were Fired Because They Refused To Get COVID Vaccines
npr.org

Fauci declares delta variant ‘greatest threat’ to the nation’s efforts to eliminate Covid
cnbc.com

(June 11, 2021 at 10:40 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: Possibilities:

1) The Sinovac vaccine isn't very good.  A doctor claims that 10% of fully-vaccinated people, when they get Covid, will end up in ICU.  That is contrary to every claim about the vaccines used in North America.

2) Seasonal problems and people no longer social distancing.

3) Even 75% of first-dose vaccinated population is not enough to get herd immunity with the Brazil variant of Covid.  Their numbers show that most people getting sick are not vaccinated (about 3/4).

What do you think, why exactly is SinoVac less effective than other COVID-19 vaccines? Having survived COVID-19 provides little immunity because COVID-19 attacks lymph nodes and prevents the production of antibodies. But SinoVac does not attack lymph nodes, right? Besides, as far as I know, there is no evidence SinoVac produces fewer antibodies.

Also, what do you think, is it possible that the vast majority of the people who supposedly died from COVID-19 after getting vaccinated actually have their deaths misattributed to COVID-19? It is usually assumed that a person who died with COVID-19 died from it. That has never been true, and is much less true for vaccinated people. Furthermore, the Chilean (the country which is supposed to both have a high vaccination rate and high COVID-19 mortality rate) overall mortality rate is actually record low for this time of the year.

Indeed. Much like HIV/AIDS. People don't die from AIDS. They die from a complication that the virus caused from lowering one's immune system. The same goes for C-19.

(June 25, 2021 at 10:10 am)Foxaire Wrote: Indeed. Much like HIV/AIDS. People don't die from AIDS. They die from a complication that the virus caused from lowering one's immune system. The same goes for C-19.

Except that AIDS has mortality rate of close to 100%, while COVID-19 has mortality rate of 5% for 80-year-olds and 0.1% for 20-year-olds.

(June 25, 2021 at 10:34 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(June 25, 2021 at 10:10 am)Foxaire Wrote: Indeed. Much like HIV/AIDS. People don't die from AIDS. They die from a complication that the virus caused from lowering one's immune system. The same goes for C-19.

Except that AIDS has mortality rate of close to 100%, while COVID-19 has mortality rate of 5% for 80-year-olds and 0.1% for 20-year-olds.

You should look things up before you embarrass yourself further.

Quote:The study, published in CDC’s , shows that from 2010 to 2017, the age-adjusted HIV-related death rate (the number of HIV-related deaths per 1,000 people with HIV) fell from 9.1 to 4.7, a decline of 48%. In 2017, 16,358 people with HIV died, and 5,534 of those deaths were from HIV-related causes.

4.7 out of 1000 gives a mortality rate of 0.47%.

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