(June 28, 2021 at 2:43 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 28, 2021 at 12:30 pm)Angrboda Wrote: And I'd like you to provide us with the patent number.  No contract can prevent you from doing so.  So what's the patent number?

talk to your boy ran-i-corn once he makes a decision as to whether or not we can all move forward we will. or you can keep hiding from the truth.

He is not preventing you from disclosing the patent number. You can, you choose not to do so. Your tedious refusal simply makes it clear that you probably can't.

(June 28, 2021 at 3:15 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(June 28, 2021 at 2:43 pm)Drich Wrote: talk to your boy ran-i-corn once he makes a decision as to whether or not we can all move forward we will. or you can keep hiding from the truth.

He is not preventing you from disclosing the patent number.  You can, you choose not to do so.  Your tedious refusal simply makes it clear that you probably can't.

i made enough money selling this idea, to up grade my whole shop to a very nice part of town, and eventually buy a house.. part of the sale was an nda, i left a definition of what an NDA is in a previous post,  if you do not know what that is.. 

bottom line i cant talk in detail about my idea. let alone provide you with confirmation and a back door to what my idea eventually became. so no i can not disclose those details. besides the only thing it is going to tell you is you have no idea what you are looking at plus a name and potential contact info, i don't care for any of you to have.

this sale represented a parting of my company and this larger manufacturer as they wanted me to help further distribute and maintain this final product in nyc, when in fact i live in fla. I had to leave the product line because i would not go. So they would be very happy to sue me for any reason, so i do not plan on giving them one. 

As they tried once had me board a flight to boston for a lawsuit, and then rescheduled, and then again in 6 months to only cancel while i had gone through security and was waiting to board at the gate.) not over this but other contractual disputes. They are a big company that does business all over the world and have lawyers on staff. i dont.

again what i can offer are a few emails and maybe some letters. if rainicorn doesn't want to play maybe i'll start a new thread.

At work.

Uhm.... some one please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't patents like, totally open to scrutiny once, y'know, applied for/filed?

Like the German's having full access to Whittle's turbine ideas once the patent office granted it in 1930 something? (As an example)?

Or that the really complex formula for WD40 has never been actually patented. Hence why it's a huge industrial secret. Hence the physical moving of said document from one secure location to another actually made the news.

An 'NDA' isn't/shouldn't do squat for or against publuc disclosure?

What am I not grokking here?

Cheers.

Patent numbers are a matter of public record. It isn't possible for a Non Disclosure Agreement to prevent the release of a patent number. And if Drich signed a document that did, he was railroaded. It wouldn't stand up in court.

Boru

(June 28, 2021 at 5:04 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 28, 2021 at 3:15 pm)Angrboda Wrote: He is not preventing you from disclosing the patent number.  You can, you choose not to do so.  Your tedious refusal simply makes it clear that you probably can't.

i made enough money selling this idea, to up grade my whole shop to a very nice part of town, and eventually buy a house.. part of the sale was an nda, i left a definition of what an NDA is in a previous post,  if you do not know what that is.. 

bottom line i cant talk in detail about my idea. let alone provide you with confirmation and a back door to what my idea eventually became. so no i can not disclose those details. besides the only thing it is going to tell you is you have no idea what you are looking at plus a name and potential contact info, i don't care for any of you to have.

this sale represented a parting of my company and this larger manufacturer as they wanted me to help further distribute and maintain this final product in nyc, when in fact i live in fla. I had to leave the product line because i would not go. So they would be very happy to sue me for any reason, so i do not plan on giving them one. 

As they tried once had me board a flight to boston for a lawsuit, and then rescheduled, and then again in 6 months to only cancel while i had gone through security and was waiting to board at the gate.) not over this but other contractual disputes. They are a big company that does business all over the world and have lawyers on staff. i dont.

again what i can offer are a few emails and maybe some letters. if rainicorn doesn't want to play maybe i'll start a new thread.

Is this the same buy where god sent you $8000 thru accounting errors?

Derptch 

(June 28, 2021 at 5:15 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

 Uhm.... some one please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't patents like, totally open to scrutiny once,  y'know, applied for/filed?

 Like the German's having full access to Whittle's  turbine ideas once the patent office granted it in 1930 something? (As an example)?

 Or that the really complex formula for WD40 has never been actually patented.  Hence why it's a huge industrial secret. Hence the physical moving of said document from one secure location to another actually made the news.

An 'NDA' isn't/shouldn't do squat for or against publuc disclosure?

What am I not grokking here?

 Cheers.

Correct. Also, the "Inventor(s)" field will not change regardless of how many times it is sold.

Drich has always struck me as the kind of guy who would lie about having a mother.

Pointless, unbelievable, and incompetent.

For the curious, here is the immediately available public information about any patent (first one that randomly turned up)...


https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars...RS=Ireland

Inventor(s) is basically who done it
Applicant is basically who paid for it
Assignee is basically who owns it now

It's a pain in the derriere and expensive to boot, thus the applicant is often the employer of the inventor(s). Neither of those fields can change. The folks who invented it remain the inventors forever. One cannot suddenly decide somebody else invented it.

Similarly, the Applicant cannot change. Somebody applied for it, that cannot change either.

The assignee can change as patents are sold. In legalese.

Drich is full of it. Or possibly engaged in forging legal documents??? Nah, he wouldn't have the wit for that.

Nope. If he ponies up a patent number, then his name will be in the inventors field, and the current owner will be in the assignee field. End of.

(June 28, 2021 at 8:10 pm)brewer Wrote:

(June 28, 2021 at 5:04 pm)Drich Wrote: i made enough money selling this idea, to up grade my whole shop to a very nice part of town, and eventually buy a house.. part of the sale was an nda, i left a definition of what an NDA is in a previous post,  if you do not know what that is.. 

bottom line i cant talk in detail about my idea. let alone provide you with confirmation and a back door to what my idea eventually became. so no i can not disclose those details. besides the only thing it is going to tell you is you have no idea what you are looking at plus a name and potential contact info, i don't care for any of you to have.

this sale represented a parting of my company and this larger manufacturer as they wanted me to help further distribute and maintain this final product in nyc, when in fact i live in fla. I had to leave the product line because i would not go. So they would be very happy to sue me for any reason, so i do not plan on giving them one. 

As they tried once had me board a flight to boston for a lawsuit, and then rescheduled, and then again in 6 months to only cancel while i had gone through security and was waiting to board at the gate.) not over this but other contractual disputes. They are a big company that does business all over the world and have lawyers on staff. i dont.

again what i can offer are a few emails and maybe some letters. if rainicorn doesn't want to play maybe i'll start a new thread.

Is this the same buy where god sent you $8000 thru accounting errors?

Don't tell me that drippy paid for a house with money he knew he received in error. Because that is theft, and drippy, being the bestest christian, would never steal.