(August 24, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Spongebob Wrote: the wars of the last 20 years

Arguably, those wars lasted since the 1960's approximately. I would recommend you looking at pictures from the 1960's in Afghanistan compared to now. Elites were greedy for profitable resources, such as oil. They had the C.I.A. go into Afghanistan to normalize Islamic terrorism through scheming and indoctrinating gullible or greedy people with religious fearmongering. Islamic terrorism is what reversed the progress in Afghanistan in regards to women's rights, human rights in general, scientific literacy, and economic power. That reversed progress is what caused vulnerable Afghanistan to become a failed country. Which gave elites a better chance at invading it. Elites normalize a military culture to invade countries like Afghanistan at the expense of international human rights, poor countries, and Earth's environment. Because they care about money and power more than kindness and morality. The Vietnam War is just an example of the people's reckless greed for money and power. I expect human nature to make more wars happen in the future unless people make an arguably better world or Earth is destroyed before humans escape it.

We don't deserve to escape or survive.

Hi troll. Bye troll.

In Iran, there are 27 million vehicles, including gasoline and diesel, 17 million private cars, 4 million public vans, 5 million and 500 thousand motorcycles and more than 800 thousand buses and diesel trucks.

These 27 million cars consume 100 million liters of gasoline per day.
So 270,000 cars will consume 1 million liters per day.
So 30,000 American cars in Afghanistan will consume 100,000 liters a day.
But we raise our hands and say that they have consumed one million liters a day.
So the army consumed $ 1 million a day in fuel.
The planes did not fly much, but if we consider 3 million liters per day for them, the total cost of fuel was $ 4 million per day.

365*4,000,000*20=29,200,000,000$

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I think USA only paid maximum 300,000,000,000$ for Afghanistan war since last 20 year.

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(August 24, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Spongebob Wrote: I don't really care what this clown thinks anyway.  If you just step back from the wars of the last 20 years and look at the military budget published by the US Government, it hovers around $600 - 700 Billion each year.  Just taking the average, since 2000 that sum comes to over $13 Trillion.  And that's just what they include in the defense budget.  A lot of spending gets categorized as other things to make it look less horrifying.  No matter how you look at it; I could have bought a lot of tamales for that money and really, is the region any better today?

Your country's politicians are stealing. They use war as an excuse and steal.

(August 25, 2021 at 4:25 am)alextruesay Wrote: In Iran, there are 27 million vehicles, including gasoline and diesel, 17 million private cars, 4 million public vans, 5 million and 500 thousand motorcycles and more than 800 thousand buses and diesel trucks.

These 27 million cars consume 100 million liters of gasoline per day.
So 270,000 cars will consume 1 million liters per day.
So 30,000 American cars in Afghanistan will consume 100,000 liters a day.
But we raise our hands and say that they have consumed one million liters a day.
So the army consumed $ 1 million a day in fuel.
The planes did not fly much, but if we consider 3 million liters per day for them, the total cost of fuel was $ 4 million per day.

365*4,000,000*20=29,200,000,000$

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I think USA only paid maximum 300,000,000,000$ for Afghanistan war since last 20 year.

How do you justify 3L/day? I only ask because 3 litres of petrol will move an M1 tank a little over a mile (fuel efficiency has never been a top concern where military vehicles are concerned).

Boru

Gallons of gas is one dollar. I calculated one liter per dollar.
The United States removes Iraqi gasoline for free.

(August 24, 2021 at 9:45 pm)AtheistQuest Wrote:

(August 24, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Spongebob Wrote: the wars of the last 20 years

Arguably, those wars lasted since the 1960's approximately. I would recommend you looking at pictures from the 1960's in Afghanistan compared to now. Elites were greedy for profitable resources, such as oil. They had the C.I.A. go into Afghanistan to normalize Islamic terrorism through scheming and indoctrinating gullible or greedy people with religious fearmongering. Islamic terrorism is what reversed the progress in Afghanistan in regards to women's rights, human rights in general, scientific literacy, and economic power. That reversed progress is what caused vulnerable Afghanistan to become a failed country. Which gave elites a better chance at invading it. Elites normalize a military culture to invade countries like Afghanistan at the expense of international human rights, poor countries, and Earth's environment. Because they care about money and power more than kindness and morality. The Vietnam War is just an example of the people's reckless greed for money and power. I expect human nature to make more wars happen in the future unless people make an arguably better world or Earth is destroyed before humans escape it.

The US wasn't engaged in any open war in the mid east before 2000.  What's your point with this mini history lesson?  How is it relevant to the OP?

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I have a hot take on Afghanistan.  It's backed by math!  How can I present this keen insight to the world?  Ooo, look, an atheist forum.

The cost of the fuel (JP-8) is only a fraction of the fully burdened cost of supplying it to the end-user in a war zone.

Fuel for the US military in Afghanistan is brought by ship into a port in Pakistan. From there it is transported by land in trucks through the mountains into Afghanistan. Once in country, it goes to various distribution points. Often with armed escorts. Getting it to remote stations is often done in plastic bladders carried by helicopters. This whole process can increase the cost from $1 a gallon bulk price paid delivered to port in Pakistan to over $1000 a gallon pumped into an MRAP in some remote province. None of this considers things like the 44 fuel trucks and 220,000 gallons of fuel destroyed just trying to get fuel into Bagram airbase in the month on June 2008 alone.