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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:44 pm
I recently had some right-wing acquaintances tell me that hydrochloroqunine combined with zinc has been proven by over 200 papers to be effective in treating Covid19, but that fact has been covered up by the mainstream media and the pharma companies.
I have zero information for or against this, but I know that early in the pandemic that both things were touted as being treatments. Since both failed individually, I guess some people decided that the two together must work?
My only answer was that the number of studies doesn't matter - it is the quality. It only takes a couple good studies to prove that something does or doesn't work.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:46 pm
(October 4, 2021 at 12:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (October 4, 2021 at 12:04 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Remain rare but possible. From the article linked by Naysayer. Sorry, the colour of the words was red and didn't show up for some reason.
Also, I don’t believe there’s any data on how long natural immunity lasts, or how effective it is compared to a vaccine. We actually have data on the effectiveness of the vaccine/s. Also, that Invermectin won a Nobel prize is completely irrelevant because it hasn’t been demonstrated to prevent or reduce the severity of COVID. You know what has? The goddamned vaccine. Please explain to me this line of reasoning:
“I’m not going to take the thing that has tons of data supporting its safety and efficacy behind it because I’m worried there isn’t enough data on its safety and efficacy, so instead I’m going to take these other things that have less data behind them, and/or data showing it’s not effective and potentially harmful.”
https://brisbanenationalreview.com/healt...weinstein/
Ivermectin is extremely safe, and even if it doesn't work, no harm done. It's certainly reasonable to say that Ivermectin is probably much safer than the vax. Personally, I took the vax, but still wanted to have Ivermectin on hand in case I contracted covid.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:50 pm
(October 4, 2021 at 12:46 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (October 4, 2021 at 12:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Also, I don’t believe there’s any data on how long natural immunity lasts, or how effective it is compared to a vaccine. We actually have data on the effectiveness of the vaccine/s. Also, that Invermectin won a Nobel prize is completely irrelevant because it hasn’t been demonstrated to prevent or reduce the severity of COVID. You know what has? The goddamned vaccine. Please explain to me this line of reasoning:
“I’m not going to take the thing that has tons of data supporting its safety and efficacy behind it because I’m worried there isn’t enough data on its safety and efficacy, so instead I’m going to take these other things that have less data behind them, and/or data showing it’s not effective and potentially harmful.”
https://brisbanenationalreview.com/healt...weinstein/
Ivermectin is extremely safe, and even if it doesn't work, no harm done. It's certainly reasonable to say that Ivermectin is probably much safer than the vax. Personally, I took the vax, but still wanted to have Ivermectin on hand in case I contracted covid.
No harm done if it doesn't work and it may clear up those nasty worms and parasites. So win-win, right?
People are taking Ivermectin that is processed for use in large animals...not the people kind.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2021 at 12:57 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(October 4, 2021 at 12:46 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (October 4, 2021 at 12:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Also, I don’t believe there’s any data on how long natural immunity lasts, or how effective it is compared to a vaccine. We actually have data on the effectiveness of the vaccine/s. Also, that Invermectin won a Nobel prize is completely irrelevant because it hasn’t been demonstrated to prevent or reduce the severity of COVID. You know what has? The goddamned vaccine. Please explain to me this line of reasoning:
“I’m not going to take the thing that has tons of data supporting its safety and efficacy behind it because I’m worried there isn’t enough data on its safety and efficacy, so instead I’m going to take these other things that have less data behind them, and/or data showing it’s not effective and potentially harmful.”
https://brisbanenationalreview.com/healt...weinstein/
Ivermectin is extremely safe, and even if it doesn't work, no harm done. It's certainly reasonable to say that Ivermectin is probably much safer than the vax.
So, you trust the data on the safety of Ivermectin (not veterinary grade, obviously) but not the data on the safety of the COVID vaccine? Why? Also, Ivermectin has not been shown to be effective at treating COVID, so why should anyone take it for COVID, regardless of how harmless it is, when we have a vaccine that actually helps with COVID? Do you hear yourself? And please provide an evidence-based case for your claim that the vaccine is less safe than Invermectin.
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 12:58 pm
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 1:01 pm
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I mean, eating a 1/2 pound of lettuce is probably pretty harmless too, but if I’m choosing between lettuce or a COVID vaccine to ensure I won’t die if I catch COVID…
Fuck it, I’m going to with lettuce!
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 1:05 pm
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(October 4, 2021 at 1:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean, eating a 1/2 pound of lettuce is probably pretty harmless too, but if I’m choosing between lettuce or a COVID vaccine to ensure I won’t die if I catch COVID…
Fuck it, I’m going to with lettuce! Indeed pushing garbage cures is itself dangerous because dissuades people from taking the stuff that will actually save you
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 1:08 pm
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RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
October 4, 2021 at 1:10 pm
A lot of people meds are produced by the same companies that produce veterinary meds. That does not mean they are the same formulation when taking into account things like dosages.
Dad ordered meds for us to have at home from the same companies he ordered product from for treating animals. I recall him saying that often meds for animals for consumption went through more testing than meds for human use.
The last couple years has done not much more than confirm to me that the idiots out there are just becoming more and more idiotic.
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