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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 14, 2011 at 8:09 pm
(November 14, 2011 at 3:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2011 at 6:18 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Quote:Friedrich Nietzsche is dead ... GOD
A casual stroll through hell proves that faith is everything...GOD
LMFAO!!!
your signature is so full of error that it makes you the laughing stock of this forum.
So Nietzsche is alive...well. Laugh all you want it doesn't bother me, Christ said "do not be troubled when people mistreat you on my account, it is me they despise not you".
No...please be aware that it is YOU that I dispise. Jesus is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER that I think was poorly invented and written.
Let me give you an example:
Jesus came down the mount to bless the atheists. Jesus said "Blessed are those who follow their own way."
You see, I completely made that up, and made Jesus say EXACTLY what I wanted him to say.
NOW..lets look at your signature:
Quote:Friedrich Nietzsche is dead ... GOD
God said that? Where? when?
This is just an example of someone doing to god what I did with Jesus above...making up a fictional authority figure and putting WHAT YOU WANT people to do or think in their mouth.
Look at what else god said:
God Wrote:I suck donkey dicks and love it!
Well, that settles it. God loves donkey jizz. I'm not suprised. He made it, so obviously he enjoys and wants it.
So while you are having your little "tee hee hee you think Nietzsche is still alive" moment, please know that you have shown, YET AGAIN, that you arent very bright. Nor are you a deep thinker.
God Wrote:I made hell to punish Christians for not being atheists.
Well. I guess that settles it. your god has specifically said you will be burning in Hell for eternity.
Sucks to be you.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 1:49 am
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(November 14, 2011 at 8:09 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (November 14, 2011 at 3:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 13, 2011 at 6:18 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Quote:Friedrich Nietzsche is dead ... GOD
A casual stroll through hell proves that faith is everything...GOD
LMFAO!!!
your signature is so full of error that it makes you the laughing stock of this forum.
So Nietzsche is alive...well. Laugh all you want it doesn't bother me, Christ said "do not be troubled when people mistreat you on my account, it is me they despise not you".
No...please be aware that it is YOU that I dispise. Jesus is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER that I think was poorly invented and written.
Let me give you an example:
Jesus came down the mount to bless the atheists. Jesus said "Blessed are those who follow their own way."
You see, I completely made that up, and made Jesus say EXACTLY what I wanted him to say.
NOW..lets look at your signature:
Quote:Friedrich Nietzsche is dead ... GOD
God said that? Where? when?
This is just an example of someone doing to god what I did with Jesus above...making up a fictional authority figure and putting WHAT YOU WANT people to do or think in their mouth.
Look at what else god said:
God Wrote:I suck donkey dicks and love it!
Well, that settles it. God loves donkey jizz. I'm not suprised. He made it, so obviously he enjoys and wants it.
So while you are having your little "tee hee hee you think Nietzsche is still alive" moment, please know that you have shown, YET AGAIN, that you arent very bright. Nor are you a deep thinker.
God Wrote:I made hell to punish Christians for not being atheists.
Well. I guess that settles it. your god has specifically said you will be burning in Hell for eternity.
Sucks to be you.
There is a big difference in what you did than what I did, the truth is Nietzshce is dead and thus could be a true statement by God. What you have done is falsify what God would say. It amazes me that you get all twisted out of shape over my signature, geez what's up with this. Also notice I used no quotation marks.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 1:57 am
A casual stroll through hell proves that faith is everything...GOD
If one took a stroll through hell, then one would not need faith ... MAN
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am
(November 14, 2011 at 6:36 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So tell me GC, if Adolf Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god just before he died, would he have gotten into heaven?
In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 2:22 am
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(November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
If he truly believed, with his whole heart and soul, that he was right and following your god's way, with christ in his heart, then does he get to go to heaven? After all, he did not do anything your god would not do!
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 2:25 am
(November 15, 2011 at 1:57 am)IATIA Wrote: A casual stroll through hell proves that faith is everything...GOD
If one took a stroll through hell, then one would not need faith ... MAN
Duh, I believe that's what I was indicating. The word proves should be the indicator.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 7:51 am
(November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 14, 2011 at 6:36 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So tell me GC, if Adolf Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god just before he died, would he have gotten into heaven?
In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
Don't dodge the question.
If Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god before he died would he have got into heaven??
Yes or no?
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm
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(November 15, 2011 at 2:22 am)IATIA Wrote: (November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
If he truly believed, with his whole heart and soul, that he was right and following your god's way, with christ in his heart, then does he get to go to heaven? After all, he did not do anything your god would not do!
There was no justice in what Hitler did.
(November 15, 2011 at 7:51 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 14, 2011 at 6:36 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So tell me GC, if Adolf Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god just before he died, would he have gotten into heaven?
In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
Don't dodge the question.
If Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god before he died would he have got into heaven??
Yes or no?
I did not dodge the question I used reason to explain why it would have never taken place. You gripe when a christian does not use reason now you gripe when one does, please make up your mind we do not have time for your games.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 3:16 pm
If Hitler did convert, and repented etc according to scripture there is NO doubt that he would go to Heaven. The Bible does not teach that "good" men to go heaven as it teaches that works can't save you alone. It is God's grace and nothing else that allows people to go to heaven.
That of course is if you literally believe in scripture. As an atheist obviously I do not but I don't see how Hitler would not be able to go to heaven if that happened. I would not have such a big problem with God's idea of justice if it only included people who desired to cause great harm/distress to others.
His idea of justice though torches people who can't come to believe in him because of reason and thought. I can't force myself to believe in something I don't think is true.
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Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm
(November 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: (November 15, 2011 at 2:22 am)IATIA Wrote: (November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
If he truly believed, with his whole heart and soul, that he was right and following your god's way, with christ in his heart, then does he get to go to heaven? After all, he did not do anything your god would not do!
There was no justice in what Hitler did.
(November 15, 2011 at 7:51 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (November 15, 2011 at 2:05 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 14, 2011 at 6:36 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So tell me GC, if Adolf Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god just before he died, would he have gotten into heaven?
In the first place a man like Hitler would not ask forgiveness for what he had done. Hitler thought he was right in what he did and thus would not see any reason to ask God's forgiveness. Second a man that is taking his own life is running away from responsibility, so again he would not be looking towards forgiveness, asking forgiveness is admitting responsibility. So Hitler would never have been looking at forgiveness. Your what if has no relevancy.
Don't dodge the question.
If Hitler had asked for forgiveness from god before he died would he have got into heaven??
Yes or no?
I did not dodge the question I used reason to explain why it would have never taken place. You gripe when a christian does not use reason now you gripe when one does, please make up your mind we do not have time for your games.
I'm sorry, did I phrase the question incorrectly?
I'm actually asking a hypothetical.
I'm sure Hitler never asked for forgiveness.
But if he had, would he have gotten into heaven?
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