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The Sects of Atheism
RE: The Sects of Atheism
What makes some atheists say, "souls and reincarnation are real" but then also say, "but gods? no there are definitely not any gods"
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(November 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm)brewer Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, please don’t devolve this thread into “unicorns “ again. It’s a tired cliche so stick to definitions for now. Smile


You kidding? I discovered 4 sects so far! 4! One guy says Atheism is a belief in Gods. ?

OMFG. How about Leprechauns? Superman? Aliens? Fairys? Zeus?

Glad you're enjoying it though surprised that intellectually it takes so little.
But those are different topics. I asked about 2 things. Souls and afterlife.

(November 2, 2021 at 4:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: Can you translate it for me? How do you interpret it?

See, when someone says something is about something, it's not the same as sayting that something IS the thing it's about. A book about Paris isn't Paris. Atheism is about gods, because it's the position of not believing in any.
Okay if it’s about NOT believing any Gods that would make sense but that’s not what I read in there. Lol
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This OP is like the Halloween Peyton, Eli and Cooper all went trick-or-treating as the Scarecrow.
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RE: The Sects of Atheism
(November 2, 2021 at 4:57 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm)brewer Wrote: OMFG. How about Leprechauns? Superman? Aliens? Fairys? Zeus?

Glad you're enjoying it though surprised that intellectually it takes so little.
But those are different topics. I asked about 2 things. Souls and afterlife.

Exactly...different topics...mull it over......

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(November 2, 2021 at 4:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: See, when someone says something is about something, it's not the same as sayting that something IS the thing it's about. A book about Paris isn't Paris. Atheism is about gods, because it's the position of not believing in any.
Okay if it’s about NOT believing any Gods that would make sense but that’s not what I read in there. Lol
That's what atheism is about.  That's what it means, and all that it means.  I'm glad that you grant it makes sense? Now that you realize that, what's next?
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(November 2, 2021 at 5:01 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:57 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: But those are different topics. I asked about 2 things. Souls and afterlife.

Exactly...different topics...mull it over......

Quote:Okay if it’s about NOT believing any Gods that would make sense but that’s not what I read in there. Lol
That's what atheism is about.  That's what it means, and all that it means.  I'm glad hat you grant it makes sense?

All right if you’re saying that atheism is lack of belief in Gods, I also take back my comment that you’re a special case. Smile
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RE: The Sects of Atheism
Quote:What makes some atheists say, "souls and reincarnation are real" but then also say, "but gods? no there are definitely not any gods"
The idea you can't reject one supernatural entity but can accept another is just silly  Hehe
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RE: The Sects of Atheism
(November 2, 2021 at 4:55 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:50 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: What are these sects of atheism?

Which person said an atheist believes in gods?

Okay so basically here’s what we have so far in this topic:

1. We have atheists - the dictionary definition of the word. Some of them are a bit confused as to what their definition allows them to say in regards to existential questions linked to God(s).
2. We have agonist atheist - the dictionary definition of the words. These folks are open minded.
3. We have meat machines - these are atheists who are also known as materialists and deny VERY HARD the existence of anything immaterial or spiritual.
4. We also have one guy who says “Atheism is a belief in Gods” ?

First of all, those aren't different sects.

By your use of the work sect, someone who is not convinced bigfoot exists, and those that say bigfoot definitely does not exist are different sects of
"a-bifootism".

All of the first 3 of your 'sects' are all people who are unconvinced gods exist. They have slightly differing epistemologies, they don't belong to different 'sects'.

Number 4 on your list was either, someone pulling your leg, or a theist, or you completely misunderstood some point they were making.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The Sects of Atheism
(November 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm)brewer Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, please don’t devolve this thread into “unicorns “ again. It’s a tired cliche so stick to definitions for now. Smile


You kidding? I discovered 4 sects so far! 4! One guy says Atheism is a belief in Gods. ?

OMFG. How about Leprechauns? Superman? Aliens? Fairys? Zeus?

Glad you're enjoying it though surprised that intellectually it takes so little.

You know of course, that you are making a category error between various beings and Being-Itself.
<insert profound quote here>
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RE: The Sects of Atheism
(November 2, 2021 at 5:03 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:
(November 2, 2021 at 5:01 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Exactly...different topics...mull it over......

That's what atheism is about.  That's what it means, and all that it means.  I'm glad hat you grant it makes sense?

All right if you’re saying that atheism is lack of belief in Gods, I also take back my comment that you’re a special case. Smile

Welllll...ish?   That is all that it means, and I am an atheist - but I'm far more religious than most of these other atheists here on the board..a fact(about me) that they've always recognized and have gone to length to register. A fact that I once argued against, but..since, have accepted as a component of intellectual honesty in mere reality.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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