(November 7, 2021 at 11:33 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(November 7, 2021 at 7:45 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘If you treat a man as what he is, he will remain what he is. If you treat a man as what he could be, he will become what he could be.’ - Goethe

Boru

So treating the dirtbag like a dead man works out?


Good to know...

The quote is contextual. Inasmuch as treating someone a certain way influences what they become, Gothe urges us to treat people what they could be.

You can't just walk the street around treating people a certain way and change them. That's absurd. And that's not what Goethe meant. But there are people in our lives whom our actions influence. Of those, I think it's a good idea to keep Goethe's words in mind.

He shouldn’t have touched me with his creepy serial killer hands

Bones

(July 29, 2021 at 8:43 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to pause and reflect. 

Mark Twain

 You mean like being an atheist? (we're about 15% of the world population) 

I'm more inclined to question my judgement on important shit when I'm in agreement with we the people , who are sheep.

“Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.” (H.L. Mencken) 

"Steal a little and they throw you in jail

Steal a lot and they make you king."

--Bob Dylan

“Wow. No God. If Mum had lied to me about God, had she also lied to me about Santa? Yes, but who cares? The gifts kept coming. And so did the gifts about my newfound atheism. The gifts of truth, science, nature. The real beauty of this world. Not a world my design, but one by chance. I learned about evolution---a theory so simple and obvious that only England’s greatest genius could have come up with it. Evolution of plants, animals and us---with imagination, free will, love and humor. I no longer needed a reason for my existence, just a reason to live. And imagination, free will, love, humor, fun, music, sports, beer, and pizza are all good enough reasons for living.” (Ricky Gervais) 

‘The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just a fucking lunatic.’ - Stephen Fry

Boru

(November 17, 2021 at 2:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just a fucking lunatic.’ - Stephen Fry

Boru

 Indeed. In fact it tends to indicate the opposite.

(November 17, 2021 at 2:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just a fucking lunatic.’ - Stephen Fry

Boru

Swearing strikes me as a sign of laziness.

(November 14, 2021 at 2:06 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(November 7, 2021 at 11:33 am)onlinebiker Wrote: So treating the dirtbag like a dead man works out?


Good to know...

The quote is contextual. Inasmuch as treating someone a certain way influences what they become, Gothe urges us to treat people what they could be.

You can't just walk the street around treating people a certain way and change them. That's absurd. And that's not what Goethe meant. But there are people in our lives whom our actions influence. Of those, I think it's a good idea to keep Goethe's words in mind.

 Yair.

Aristotle said “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”

Many other thinkers ,such as St Augustine, have been credited with this quote.

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(November 17, 2021 at 5:57 pm)Alan V Wrote:

(November 17, 2021 at 2:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest is just a fucking lunatic.’ - Stephen Fry

Boru

Swearing strikes me as a sign of laziness.

 
I guess it might be, but I'm unconvinced it's a general indicator of laziness, ignorance or stupidity.

I just went looking and found the quote below. To be a fair, there doesn't seem to be a consensus. Still think you're fucking wrong.


The use of obscene or taboo language - or swearing, as it’s more commonly known - is often seen as a sign that the speaker lacks vocabulary, cannot express themselves in a less offensive way, or even lacks intelligence.

Studies have shown, however, that swearing may in fact display a more, rather than less, intelligent use of language.
While swearing can become a habit, we choose to swear in different contexts and for different purposes: for linguistic effect, to convey emotion, for laughs, or perhaps even to be deliberately nasty.
Psychologists interested in when and why people swear try to look past the stereotype that swearing is the language of the unintelligent and illiterate.


Swearing Is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence - Not Less - Say Scientists (sciencealert.com)


Be interested to see the evidence for your opinion.