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Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
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 (November 17, 2011 at 4:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: What you want is not what I want choice made, you probably can't see that I answered your entire question, but then that would mean you would have to use reason and I'm convinced you can not reason. Not only can I use reason, but I can use grammar. 'What you want is not what I want choice made'? I've no idea what that is supposed to mean, but it doesn't make sense.  RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm by Heather.)
Well GC, where is the justice in your theology?
![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 7:35 pm by IATIA.)
Reasoning encompasses examining the possibility that you might be wrong and I doubt that you have that ability.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  Quote:God is just and we serve God and try to follow His will. God isn't and his "followers" are just idiots, G-C. 
Who else is tired of this excuse for ignorance and fear?
Well GC? Or are you having problems reconciling the contradictions inherent in your belief system?
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
There you go, Gc has run off crying
 But don't worry folks, he'll be back in a few weeks spouting the same old"god is just and merciful" bullshit. And this thread will never have happened. 
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  (November 8, 2011 at 10:22 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: Very true. It'd be nice if criminals were treated as the misinformed, mentally ill individuals who they are, but in America we prefer to make them suffer and turn them into more violent criminals who, after their pointless imprisonment, merely decide to hate authority more.The whole assisted suicide law is there because of the Christian theocratic society we have in America. It comes from Christian values (apparently people must suffer). This is why religious beliefs should be kept out of the government.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."
-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife  RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 20, 2011 at 8:20 am
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2011 at 8:22 am by Justtristo.)
Those Christians who defend a literal hell as opposed to annihilationism or universalism, would say that they are comforted that there is ultimate justice as they see it.
However Yahweh's ideal of justice is very warped, because if you have murdered and eaten people you can still not go to hell. So long as your put your trust in Jesus Christ and genuinely repented of those sins along with others. But on the other hand if you have lived a morally upstanding life (whatever people see it), you still would go to hell. Because you never put your trust in Jesus Christ. It is literally a system which would allow Adolf Hitler into heaven if he had put his trust in Jesus Christ before he died. Not to mention what actions and thoughts that Yahweh considers is a sin (literally infractions of his law) or not. Hence even I who admits he is pretty amoral and uncaring of other people is troubled a little by all of this.
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