(November 24, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Helios Wrote:

(November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.

Boru

I mean Paradox in the absurd self-contradictory sense

Oh, that. Yeah.

Boru

(November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 24, 2021 at 5:37 pm)Helios Wrote: France is interesting when comes to pot. It suffers the paradox of having a thriving pot industry and the highest usage in western Europe while having the harshest pot laws in Europe.

Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.

Boru

So what would banning firearms in the US do?

(November 24, 2021 at 7:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.

Boru

So what would banning firearms in the US do?

 The outcome could vary from rioting in the streets to people hiding their firearms.

Don't know if it may be reasonably argued that there would  be more guns in the hands of civilians. Illicit arms dealers would probably make fortune as guns would be no longer sold at Walmart or by mail.

But, it's a hypothetical question. A bit like asking me what I'd do in X situation. At best, my answer will always be an educated guess.

An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.

(November 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm)Fireball Wrote: An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.

 I think it was Chris Rock who suggested to make ammunition really expensive, like $1000 a round.  It could be eased in, beginning with say ammo for semi automatic weapons and weapons above say .22 calibre. 

I guess it's just me being naive. Have never understood how any urbanite could have a legitimate use for say an Uzi or AK47. These weapons are meant for killing  people, not for sport

(November 24, 2021 at 11:34 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(November 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm)Fireball Wrote: An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.

 I think it was Chris Rock who suggested to make ammunition really expensive, like $1000 a round.  It could be eased in, beginning with say ammo for semi automatic weapons and weapons above say .22 calibre. 

I guess it's just me being naive. Have never understood how any urbanite could have a legitimate use for say an Uzi or AK47. These weapons are meant for killing  people, not for sport

Well. The US has kind of a strange gun culture, no doubt. Nobody I know has an Uzi or AK47, but then, I'm kind of sheltered, as I don't hang around with that sort of...sport. Chris Rock's suggestion is ludicrous, given the legitimate uses of some firearms. 22 caliber has a multitude of uses, but it won't bring down much in the way of game beyond rabbits and squirrels, which are legitimately food in some areas of the US. I personally have a .22 carbine that I have customized purely for shooting at paper targets, with marksmanship as a goal. .308 and some larger calibers are used for deer and other large game. Some people like to collect weapons like those you mentioned. I have no interest in them, either. I'd be interested in knowing how many of said weapon is actually in collections in the US. My take is that most AK47s are in foreign lands, same with Uzis. I wonder if anyone has some actual statistics?

Boru

I could look it up, but right offhand I can tell you that there’s a huge number of ak and sks, and knockoffs, in the us market. A significant number are grey if not black and traded like alt currency. I got rid of all of mine a few years back. They never got fired, I didn’t have any crimes planned, it was a waste.

They were the it thing before ar-s really took off.

If they ever made ammo $1000 a bullet - I would be the richest sons a bitch you would ever meet...