Posts: 46136
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Those Political Memes
November 24, 2021 at 6:53 pm
(November 24, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.
Boru I mean Paradox in the absurd self-contradictory sense
Oh, that. Yeah.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 9538
Threads: 410
Joined: October 3, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: Those Political Memes
November 24, 2021 at 7:14 pm
(November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 24, 2021 at 5:37 pm)Helios Wrote: France is interesting when comes to pot. It suffers the paradox of having a thriving pot industry and the highest usage in western Europe while having the harshest pot laws in Europe.
Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.
Boru So what would banning firearms in the US do?
Posts: 7388
Threads: 168
Joined: February 25, 2009
Reputation:
45
RE: Those Political Memes
November 24, 2021 at 8:35 pm
(November 24, 2021 at 7:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (November 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a paradox at all. Telling people they can't something always increases its consumption. Always, always, always.
Boru So what would banning firearms in the US do?
The outcome could vary from rioting in the streets to people hiding their firearms.
Don't know if it may be reasonably argued that there would be more guns in the hands of civilians. Illicit arms dealers would probably make fortune as guns would be no longer sold at Walmart or by mail.
But, it's a hypothetical question. A bit like asking me what I'd do in X situation. At best, my answer will always be an educated guess.
Posts: 9878
Threads: 21
Joined: September 8, 2015
Reputation:
79
RE: Those Political Memes
November 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm
An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
Posts: 7388
Threads: 168
Joined: February 25, 2009
Reputation:
45
RE: Those Political Memes
November 24, 2021 at 11:34 pm
(November 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm)Fireball Wrote: An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.
I think it was Chris Rock who suggested to make ammunition really expensive, like $1000 a round. It could be eased in, beginning with say ammo for semi automatic weapons and weapons above say .22 calibre.
I guess it's just me being naive. Have never understood how any urbanite could have a legitimate use for say an Uzi or AK47. These weapons are meant for killing people, not for sport
Posts: 9878
Threads: 21
Joined: September 8, 2015
Reputation:
79
RE: Those Political Memes
November 25, 2021 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2021 at 1:03 am by Fireball.)
(November 24, 2021 at 11:34 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: (November 24, 2021 at 9:34 pm)Fireball Wrote: An interesting thing happened here in California, in 2014. Any gun purchased before that date is not in their new (then) electronic system. Whatever database existed before is non-existent, I guess. I had to register my .22 Carbine (AGAIN) that I bought in '02, and get a driver's license with a chip in it to buy ammunition. A one-time background check was conducted ($19). If I didn't want to do what was mentioned above, there would be a $19 background check every time I bought ammo. Now, it's just $1 for each purchase...when one can find ammo. One can be pretty much assured that there is a plethora of unregistered firearms in this state, and that people have cases and cases of ammunition purchased before this law was enacted...because they didn't re-register them. Crazy, to say the least.
I think it was Chris Rock who suggested to make ammunition really expensive, like $1000 a round. It could be eased in, beginning with say ammo for semi automatic weapons and weapons above say .22 calibre.
I guess it's just me being naive. Have never understood how any urbanite could have a legitimate use for say an Uzi or AK47. These weapons are meant for killing people, not for sport
Well. The US has kind of a strange gun culture, no doubt. Nobody I know has an Uzi or AK47, but then, I'm kind of sheltered, as I don't hang around with that sort of...sport. Chris Rock's suggestion is ludicrous, given the legitimate uses of some firearms. 22 caliber has a multitude of uses, but it won't bring down much in the way of game beyond rabbits and squirrels, which are legitimately food in some areas of the US. I personally have a .22 carbine that I have customized purely for shooting at paper targets, with marksmanship as a goal. .308 and some larger calibers are used for deer and other large game. Some people like to collect weapons like those you mentioned. I have no interest in them, either. I'd be interested in knowing how many of said weapon is actually in collections in the US. My take is that most AK47s are in foreign lands, same with Uzis. I wonder if anyone has some actual statistics?
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
Posts: 46136
Threads: 538
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: Those Political Memes
November 25, 2021 at 5:08 am
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 67196
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Those Political Memes
November 25, 2021 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2021 at 10:21 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I could look it up, but right offhand I can tell you that there’s a huge number of ak and sks, and knockoffs, in the us market. A significant number are grey if not black and traded like alt currency. I got rid of all of mine a few years back. They never got fired, I didn’t have any crimes planned, it was a waste.
They were the it thing before ar-s really took off.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 9538
Threads: 410
Joined: October 3, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: Those Political Memes
November 25, 2021 at 10:43 am
If they ever made ammo $1000 a bullet - I would be the richest sons a bitch you would ever meet...
Posts: 16973
Threads: 461
Joined: March 29, 2015
Reputation:
30
RE: Those Political Memes
November 25, 2021 at 11:02 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
|