(September 1, 2022 at 12:10 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 1, 2022 at 11:45 am)HappySkeptic Wrote: Pascal's Wager makes no sense.

Trying to believe in Odin is the only way to Valhalla.  You see how that works?

"trying to believe" just means you're open to the possibility.

It means no such thing. Even if it did, being ‘open to the possibility’ isn’t nearly enough to keep one out of the Christian hell.

For that matter, neither is simply ‘trying to believe’.

Boru

I am trying to believe there are fairies and gnomes living in my yard.

But I see no evidence of either.

(September 1, 2022 at 2:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am trying to believe there are fairies and gnomes living in my yard.

But I see no evidence of either.

What if they're just so small you can't see them?

(September 1, 2022 at 2:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am trying to believe there are fairies and gnomes living in my yard.

But I see no evidence of either.

It's Pixies, not fairies; if you watch enough of MTV from the 80s, they will appear, but, at least 6 hours of nonstop watching is required.

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(September 1, 2022 at 2:22 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(September 1, 2022 at 2:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am trying to believe there are fairies and gnomes living in my yard.

But I see no evidence of either.

What if they're just so small you can't see them?

The sizes of faeries and gnomes, et al, is pretty well attested to in the relevant literature. None of them are so small they can’t be seen.

Boru

If I stole 10% of the wealth from the 2700 billionaires on the planet and distributed it to the poorest corners of the world and improved their standard of living, would that actually be doing a good thing? I don't mean just giving them cash but actually building housing, infrastructre, health and social care etc etc.

Sure, lifitng people out of poverty would be great for them, but what about the planet? Not sure it would appreciate even more consumerism, extra need for resources and potential population boom / ageing populations.

(September 1, 2022 at 3:42 pm)bemore Wrote: If I stole 10% of the wealth from the 2700 billionaires on the planet and distributed it to the poorest corners of the world and improved their standard of living, would that actually be doing a good thing? I don't mean just giving them cash but actually building housing, infrastructre, health and social care etc etc.

Sure, lifitng people out of poverty would be great for them, but what about the planet? Not sure it would appreciate even more consumerism, extra need for resources and potential population boom / ageing populations.

Hmmm...are you a Nazi?

(September 1, 2022 at 3:43 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(September 1, 2022 at 3:42 pm)bemore Wrote: If I stole 10% of the wealth from the 2700 billionaires on the planet and distributed it to the poorest corners of the world and improved their standard of living, would that actually be doing a good thing? I don't mean just giving them cash but actually building housing, infrastructre, health and social care etc etc.

Sure, lifitng people out of poverty would be great for them, but what about the planet? Not sure it would appreciate even more consumerism, extra need for resources and potential population boom / ageing populations.

Hmmm...are you a Nazi?

I'm not saying don't help people.

Everything has a consequence.

Please explain your views on how the planet can sustain a couple of billion extra people living a 1st world lifestyle.

Thanks.