Quote:Forget the source. The source is irrelevant. The White House brought in a white man to take on the important issues, and let The Press Secretary handle the less important matters, and it's too late to fire her because that would look really bad for the White House.

(September 30, 2022 at 2:08 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Still waiting to hear your bona fides so we can compare them to the obviously unqualified diversity hire.

(September 30, 2022 at 11:52 am)Angrboda Wrote: I suppose it all comes down to what the goals of incarceration are. If they are retribution, yeah, take their voting rights. But arguing retribution for criminals these days is largely a moral black hole that is really not justifiable in the modern era. Incarceration can defensibly be said to serve two goals, rehabilitation and keeping criminals out of society to reduce the risk of reoffending. Neither goal is served by taking away their voting rights, the exact opposite, in fact. Participation in society's political processes aids rehabilitation which ultimately reduces the rates of recidivism.

(September 30, 2022 at 2:21 pm)Helios Wrote:

Quote:Oh, and if you care, which you probably don't because you have no consistent morals, the White House Press Secretary, Karine Jean-Pierrehe also claimed that the 2016 election was stolen. So much for your virtue signaling against election deniers, eh?

There is no inconsistency between disagreeing with Karine Jean-Pierrehe on whether the 2016 election was stolen while supporting her and denouncing the dangerous lunatics that support THE BIG LIE. And you have no morals period just empty contrarianism.

(September 30, 2022 at 2:46 pm)Helios Wrote:

(September 30, 2022 at 2:08 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Still waiting to hear your bona fides so we can compare them to the obviously unqualified diversity hire.

Quote:ut how is an election denier qualified for the job of Press Secretary when there are thousands of people out there, and black women at that, who were not election deniers? You can't answer that. Someone who hasn't denied an election would surely be preferable to someone who has denied an election, no? Why is denying elections not crossing a red line to you when there are thousands of other applicants out there for the job, and why should election denial not be a disqualifier when this person is supposed to have credibility in speaking on behalf of the current administration?

(September 30, 2022 at 2:27 pm)Helios Wrote:

Quote:So when I've just debunked all of your claims, your only response is to ask if I'm as bright as her? I don't see how that would be relevant, as I'm not claiming that I would be a good Press Secretary either. You say she speaks 3 languages. Well, her job is to speak one language, and to do it extremely competently as she is the spokesperson for the leader of the free world, and she makes Jen Psaki look like Shakespeare. The White House seems to agree, as I've just given you the link to that, so if I'm racist for criticizing her, then so is the White House and every one else behind the scenes for having no faith in her after she showed herself to be a trainwreck complete diversity hire just like Kamala. Again, it's not racist to criticize a person of a certain colour. I repeat. Stop treating millionaire politicians and their propagandist talking heads like toddlers. I'm showing them equality when it comes to criticism. You are not, and inequality is racism.

You debunked fuck all and your source is flaming garbage and no this has nothing to do with equality you are just highjacking egalitarian rhetoric to be racist.

Quote:Do you know how nonsensical this point was? That's like Shaq gaining 50 pounds of fat over the summer and not working out at all, and then when he's criticized by the media, he says "but.. but.. but, can you put up 27 points and 15 rebounds a game? Didn't think so." Just because a Shaq who slacks off can still put up big numbers and I can't put up as big of numbers as him, that doesn't therefore mean that there isn't merit in criticisms of Shaq not working out and putting on 50 pounds of fat. The argument Nudge threw out at me is literally the argument flat earther athletes like Kyrie Irving use when their game is criticized. Lol at you for thinking Nudge was making any kind of sound argument there. He's pretty bright in general, but that was a swing and a miss.

(September 30, 2022 at 3:07 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(September 30, 2022 at 2:27 pm)Helios Wrote: You debunked fuck all and your source is flaming garbage and no this has nothing to do with equality you are just highjacking egalitarian rhetoric to be racist.

Sorry sir, but Krystal and Sagaar on Talking Points are legit. I would not classify them as "flaming garbage."