(May 1, 2023 at 5:20 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(April 30, 2023 at 9:03 pm)Tomato Wrote: Astronomy isn't astrology.

An interesting article about the two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_astronomy

I believe that the position of stars do affect life on earth,  especially after knowing that the sun alone can cause effects during solar flares:

https://sunwarrior.com/blogs/health-hub/...o-about-it

Quote:You may have noticed some strange things happening lately, especially glitches here in Wi-Fi Land. Maybe your text messages aren't going through, flights have been delayed, or perhaps you've noticed some strange physiological effects like being more emotional, angry, edgy, or agitated. Maybe you're experiencing more difficulty sleeping than usual, unexplained bouts of nausea, dizziness, extreme exhaustion, or even difficulty remembering things. These can all be the result of solar flares.

Even if solar flares are able to cause physiological effects (a claim not supported by your link), that's nothing to do with natal astrological horoscopy.

Boru

(May 1, 2023 at 5:20 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(April 30, 2023 at 9:03 pm)Tomato Wrote: Astronomy isn't astrology.

An interesting article about the two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_astronomy

I believe that the position of stars do affect life on earth,  especially after knowing that the sun alone can cause effects during solar flares:

https://sunwarrior.com/blogs/health-hub/...o-about-it

Quote:You may have noticed some strange things happening lately, especially glitches here in Wi-Fi Land. Maybe your text messages aren't going through, flights have been delayed, or perhaps you've noticed some strange physiological effects like being more emotional, angry, edgy, or agitated. Maybe you're experiencing more difficulty sleeping than usual, unexplained bouts of nausea, dizziness, extreme exhaustion, or even difficulty remembering things. These can all be the result of solar flares.

You realize the nearest star is 264,000 times further from the earth than the sun, right?   

And given that magnitude of influence propagate in proportion to the inverse square of the distance,  it’s effects would be mitigated by a factor of 70 billion compared to those of the sun by virtual of mere distance alone, right?

You realize it is not just the distance but the intervening interstellar medium that blocks and homogenizes flares of distant stars, right?   In almost everything a start emits besides light and gravity, interstellar medium acts as a blanket,  So the material of the nearest star’s flare would run into interstellar medium and be brought to a stop before it has even covered 1/2000th the distance between the nearest star and earth, right?

You realize science is not just like the vapid Quran over which you can have another one of your idiotic Quranic reflections, right?    It actually has facts behind it that you must learn, and specific, concrete, testable relationships that you must understand, right?

^Exactly this. 

One of the common 'supports' for astrological silliness is gravity: The position of the stars and planets at the moment of birth exert a gravitational pull that affects the rest of your life.

The shoes I'm wearing right now are producing a far greater gravitational attraction on me than is the planet Mars. Why don't astrologers ever take footwear into account when casting their horoscopes?

Boru

Listen, I am not really supposed to divulge such classified information, but you seem worth it.

I can get you a Lucid Dream Generator Cap. It is not cheap.


Don't be alarmed, it only looks like tin foil. It is actually a super rare metal.

I hear a sharp blow to the skull can induce lucid dreaming. PM me your address and I'll come kick you in the head as you lay sleeping.

BSB IV:

The shoes I'm wearing right now are producing a far greater gravitational attraction on me than is the planet Mars. Why don't astrologers ever take footwear into account when casting their horoscopes?

That's simple.
It all comes down to agony.

Agony of de feet.

(May 1, 2023 at 8:33 am)no one Wrote: BSB IV:

The shoes I'm wearing right now are producing a far greater gravitational attraction on me than is the planet Mars. Why don't astrologers ever take footwear into account when casting their horoscopes?

That's simple.
It all comes down to agony.

Agony of de feet.

I once won an outdoor cooker in a contest. I experienced The Grill Of Victory.

Boru

Does any of this help explain uranus?

(May 1, 2023 at 6:16 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 1, 2023 at 5:20 am)WinterHold Wrote: An interesting article about the two:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_astronomy

I believe that the position of stars do affect life on earth,  especially after knowing that the sun alone can cause effects during solar flares:

https://sunwarrior.com/blogs/health-hub/...o-about-it

You realize the nearest star is 264,000 times further from the earth than the sun, right?   

And given that magnitude of influence propagate in proportion to the inverse square of the distance,  it’s effects would be mitigated by a factor of 70 billion compared to those of the sun by virtual of mere distance alone, right?

You realize it is not just the distance but the intervening interstellar medium that blocks and homogenizes flares of distant stars, right?   In almost everything a start emits besides light and gravity, interstellar medium acts as a blanket,  So the material of the nearest star’s flare would run into interstellar medium and be brought to a stop before it has even covered 1/2000th the distance between the nearest star and earth, right?

You realize science is not just like the vapid Quran over which you can have another one of your idiotic Quranic reflections, right?    It actually has facts behind it that you must learn, and specific, concrete, testable relationships that you must understand, right?

I believe in the domino-effect, or in other words: the scientific concept that is called "The Butterfly Effect", and I quote the scientific landmark of the chaos theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

Quote:The idea that small causes may have large effects in weather was earlier acknowledged by French mathematician and engineer Henri Poincaré. American mathematician and philosopher Norbert Wiener also contributed to this theory. Lorenz's work placed the concept of instability of the Earth's atmosphere onto a quantitative base and linked the concept of instability to the properties of large classes of dynamic systems which are undergoing nonlinear dynamics and deterministic chaos.[4]

Read my bold again and again. Science did say that the Butterfly Effect is a true valid probability.

So even if the planets' orbits had tiny microscopic changes, the change would reach you. Or:

Quote:"...whatever we do affects everything and everyone else, if even in the tiniest way. Why, when a housefly flaps his wings, a breeze goes round the world."

(May 1, 2023 at 4:55 pm)WinterHold Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

Quote:The idea that small causes may have large effects in weather was earlier acknowledged by French mathematician and engineer Henri Poincaré. American mathematician and philosopher Norbert Wiener also contributed to this theory. Lorenz's work placed the concept of instability of the Earth's atmosphere onto a quantitative base and linked the concept of instability to the properties of large classes of dynamic systems which are undergoing nonlinear dynamics and deterministic chaos.[4]

Read my bold again and again. Science did say that the Butterfly Effect is a true valid probability.

So even if the planets' orbits had tiny microscopic changes, the change would reach you. Or:

First, even if the butterfly effect were real, that wouldn't mean that I could set up a camera up in front of a butterfly, and generate "butterfly-scopes" that would predict the weather.  Chaotic systems exhibit large long-term deviations from small changes in initial conditions.  But, by their very nature, you can't predict the result.  You would need a computer more complicated than the system itself to model it.

Second, not all systems exhibit this instability, and even ones that are chaotic can have regions of stability.  Take Saturn's rings for example.  The orbit of any one particle in the rings is in general, chaotic (a many-body problem), but that chaos eventually leads to the particle finding a zone of semi-stability.  This creates the gaps and patterns we see in the rings.

Third, it is true that every object you encounter in everyday life has more force, sound, light, and smell, and effect than a planet or a star. 

Therefore, astrology is bunk.