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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 11:47 am
(June 27, 2023 at 11:37 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Clearly, you can't argue anything with any vigor. Is this you telling us, again, that you actually don't care whether any of the shit you say about the big boat is true? I'm saying is my beliefs are not contingent on whether or not I am right/what I believe is true or not.
Quote:Goddamn son, now you're blaming god and saying that your ridiculous beliefs are his responsibility?
lol, more or less.
Quote:He might care that the supposed faithful are lying through their teeth and talking shit about him.
what if they simply do not know any better. Being wrong does not equal lying.
Quote: I believe there's even a biblical term for that and it's Very Not Good.
what's the term?
Quote: Worse, you bear false witness for no particular reason, and without care for whether or not it's true... according to you.
Bearing false witness is lying about something someone else did. "I saw frank murder his wife." when in fact you did not. I never claimed to see God murder anyone.
Quote:A simpleton before the heathens, a sinner before god. I'm not seeing the upside.
You forgot forgiven. That is the up side. In that one can be a sinner before God and hated by his fellow man and still be forgiven through Christ.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 11:48 am
(June 27, 2023 at 11:43 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You can only speak for yourself..and apparently, your god.
I am speaking or myself. That is why I said, "I contend that all forms of morality are relative."
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 11:49 am
(June 27, 2023 at 11:44 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2023 at 12:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 27, 2023 at 11:48 am)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 27, 2023 at 11:43 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You can only speak for yourself..and apparently, your god.
I am speaking or myself. That is why I said, "I contend that all forms of morality are relative." I'm going to chalk this one up to a language comprehension problem. Speaking for yourself and your god, you could only contend that your morality and your gods morality were relative - though I don't think even that would be accurate - particularly given your most recent responses.
You espouse a worldview where you would claim to believe even what you know to be false. Where there is no obligation to tell the truth, not even about your god, because there is no moral standard, only a transactional interaction. You say things because you want something. God, you hope, is cool with this.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 12:05 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2023 at 12:08 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(June 27, 2023 at 11:48 am)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 27, 2023 at 11:43 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You can only speak for yourself..and apparently, your god.
I am speaking or myself. That is why I said, "I contend that all forms of morality are relative."
If moral dicta from God are relative, why should I be punished for disobeying them? I live what I consider to be a moral existence - I don’t tell hurtful lies, I don’t cheat on my taxes, I go to great lengths to treat other people fairly. Why should God’s view of morality take precedence over mine?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 12:06 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2023 at 12:08 pm by Anomalocaris.)
He is a character who delights in showing off how slippery for his god he thinks he is by falling on his own ass with each and every utterance. He is just like Drich. I maintain he is a sock for Drich.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 12:58 pm
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(June 27, 2023 at 9:33 am)R-Farmer Wrote: There is a tweet Joe rogan made that kicked off this whole thing. The how, and why he went down this rabbit hole of a world wide flood. (according to the article that cites and screen shots the actual tweet Rogan made.)
Oh, so it's not a podcast anymore but a tweet that proved the flood.
(June 27, 2023 at 10:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If R-farmer is not the one and the same as the one time resident case study in theistic social and intellectual maladjustment Drich, then R-farmer must have won the exact same lotteries of confident ignorance, ridiculous pretension, moronic overreach, and pitiful propensity to tell bullshit personal sob stories out of confusion between sympathy and credence as Drich.
You might be right. I also wanted to say he might be Drich because he is blaming the popular culture.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 1:13 pm
(June 27, 2023 at 12:58 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (June 27, 2023 at 9:33 am)R-Farmer Wrote: There is a tweet Joe rogan made that kicked off this whole thing. The how, and why he went down this rabbit hole of a world wide flood. (according to the article that cites and screen shots the actual tweet Rogan made.)
Oh, so it's not a podcast anymore but a tweet that proved the flood.
(June 27, 2023 at 10:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If R-farmer is not the one and the same as the one time resident case study in theistic social and intellectual maladjustment Drich, then R-farmer must have won the exact same lotteries of confident ignorance, ridiculous pretension, moronic overreach, and pitiful propensity to tell bullshit personal sob stories out of confusion between sympathy and credence as Drich.
You might be right. I also wanted to say he might be Drich because he is blaming the popular culture. Consider neither did that and even worst even his fake expert didn't. This has just gotten sad.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 1:16 pm
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 27, 2023 at 1:18 pm
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(June 27, 2023 at 11:39 am)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 27, 2023 at 11:06 am)brewer Wrote: OK, but, then why are you here? Why do you need to argue with atheists and want validation for your belief(s)? You are certainly not giving to us (atheists) and we are certainly not in need. Kind of against what you profess to be.
I suggest that you let us be us and you be you and move on.
to make friends and to have fun talking about religious things.
I can do that if that is what most of you guys want. I am on reddit as well so you can always find me there.
How many friends do you think you have made here? You started out good and then, in short order, went off the rails trying everything under the sun to justify your belief to us and failing miserably. It should be obvious to you.
You do understand that atheists talk about other things than religion. If you want to believe in god that's fine by me, just don't expect me to agree, especially with the nonsense you post. Maybe it works for you and the other christians, if so great. But can't you tell that it's not working for the rest of the forum? You've become what we call a 'chew toy'. A desperate christian that will throw anything that comes to mind against the wall to see if it sticks. Hint, none so far has stuck.
If you can produce concrete evidence that there is a god then bring it. So far I haven't seen any, from you or any other christian, jew, muslim, hindu.............
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