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Songs of gog magog
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 (September 5, 2023 at 8:35 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:(September 5, 2023 at 3:00 am)WinterHold Wrote: After years of Googeling I reached the fact that the ancient Mongol empire was actually an alliance between "the Golden Horde -located in Russia- and Genghis Khan's Mongols who occupied China. I hate prophecies uttered by men, for example the large volumes known as the Islamic Hadith, just like the Christian prophecy books -uttered by men- they are never accurate, who said Ezekiel wrote them in the first place? the write is probably an drunk Roman. Just like the Hadith books. That's why I limit the prophecies I believe in to a limited source, with the condition of it being revealed directly from God. Ezekiel might not even be the source of these texts you mentioned; that's why they're off target.  (September 7, 2023 at 7:38 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(September 5, 2023 at 8:35 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: The prophecy of Gog/Magog was from Ezekiel, who had a shitty track record as a prophet... Yet you accept the Gog/Magog prophesy from the same sketchy sources.  (September 7, 2023 at 8:21 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:(September 7, 2023 at 7:38 pm)WinterHold Wrote: ...Ezekiel might not even be the source of these texts you mentioned; that's why they're off target. He's a faith head. You weren't really expecting consistency, were you?
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(September 7, 2023 at 9:13 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:(September 7, 2023 at 8:21 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Yet you accept the Gog/Magog prophesy from the same sketchy sources. I insist on being served a much higher quality of godder around here. 
Bucky Ball
badass messiah  Religious Views: Igtheist .. there is no coherent definition of the word "god" RE: Songs of gog magog
September 8, 2023 at 11:20 am
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2023 at 11:27 am by Bucky Ball.)
Deuteronomy 18:10-11
"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead." Prophesy is not "prediction". The role of a prophet was to be a "mouthpiece" from the god to the people of their own time. They were normally written in the form of a "warning". If the warning came true, it was a FAILED prophecy, as the people failed to heed the warning. If the people listened to the warning, the bad event did not come true, and the prophecy (warning) succeeded. This thread is the typical ignorance of Biblical scholarship, by amateurs such as Winterhold, which students who have actual educations in these subjects are generally taught in week 1 of Bible 101.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
 Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist  RE: Songs of gog magog
September 8, 2023 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 8, 2023 at 2:13 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(September 7, 2023 at 9:30 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:(September 7, 2023 at 9:13 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: He's a faith head. You weren't really expecting consistency, were you? Frankincense and myrrh may mask the stench, but does not improve the freshness of the food. (September 8, 2023 at 11:20 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Deuteronomy 18:10-11 Old magic book in a single breath. -Interracial marriage and urbanism have angered god, and if we don't get right quick he's going to send armies to destroy us. Evergreen, when you think about it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(September 8, 2023 at 7:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -Interracial marriage and urbanism have angered god, and if we don't get right quick he's going to send armies to destroy us. Nehemiah 13:27 Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives? I admit I married a strange wife, but she did too.
Nuts are compelled to translate and misunderstand their own magic books in an unfortunate way. Absent thorough and critical scholarship, the texts lose their relatability and understanding. What starts out as a primal scream gets sanitized and turned into a prophecy that succeeds...when it happens.....which, as Bucky so thoroughly explained, is exactly the opposite thing. Contemporary religionists have created a grotesque mockery of the things they profess to hold sacred, and, in the process, robbed themselves of the very thing that gives these stories their longevity and whatever meaning or profundity they hold.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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