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October 9, 2023 at 3:40 pm
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(October 9, 2023 at 2:22 pm)brewer Wrote: Stole this from that other forum. I found it a good read.
https://www.972mag.com/gaza-attack-context-israelis/
I truly wonder if Israelies and their allies are still human or not:
Quote:This is a terrible day. After waking up to air sirens under a barrage of hundreds of rockets fired on Israeli cities, we have been learning about the unprecedented assault by Palestinian militants from Gaza into Israeli towns bordering the strip.
The Jewish state have been besieging Gazza for decades and raining bombs on women and children.
They're getting the same treatment they have been giving to the natives of the land.
I mean aren't Russians who bomb Ukraine terrorists? isn't it justified for Ukraine to bomb Moscow?
Then why is it forbidden for natives of Palestine to bomb Zionists?
weird..double standards if you ask me.
This though:
Quote:In Gaza, meanwhile, the ongoing siege is continuously destroying the lives of over two million Palestinians, many of whom are living in extreme poverty, with little access to clean water and about four hours of electricity a day. This siege has no official endgame; even an Israeli State Comptroller report found that the government has never discussed long-term solutions to ending the blockade, nor seriously considered any alternatives to recurring rounds of war and death. It is literally the only option this government, and its predecessors, have on the table.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 3:50 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 3:40 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Jewish state have been besieging Gazza for decades and raining bombs on women and children.
They're getting the same treatment they have been giving to the natives of the land. When you put a rocket launcher on the roof of a school you've just recruited all the school kids downstairs into your army. And when an Israeli F-16 takes out that so-designated missile platform the blood of the dead kids downstairs are not on the pilot nor his CO nor his country.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm
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(October 9, 2023 at 3:50 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 3:40 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Jewish state have been besieging Gazza for decades and raining bombs on women and children.
They're getting the same treatment they have been giving to the natives of the land. When you put a rocket launcher on the roof of a school you've just recruited all the school kids downstairs into your army. And when an Israeli F-16 takes out that so-designated missile platform the blood of the dead kids downstairs are not on the pilot nor his CO nor his country.
The IDF is bombing "randomly"; most of its airstrikes are targeting women and children to terrorize Hamas; the evidence is the amount of weapons and rockets Hamas has !
The IDF's airstrikes were never aimed toward enemy fighters or even enemy weapons; but towards civilians !
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm
WinterHold Wrote:The Jewish state have been besieging Gazza for decades and raining bombs on women and children.
They're getting the same treatment they have been giving to the natives of the land.
So much for the peace solution. The religion of peace my ass.
WinterHold Wrote:isn't it justified for Ukraine to bomb Moscow?
Then why is it forbidden for natives of Palestine to bomb Zionists?
weird..double standards if you ask me.
What double standards? Ukraine is not bombing civilians.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 3:50 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: When you put a rocket launcher on the roof of a school you've just recruited all the school kids downstairs into your army. And when an Israeli F-16 takes out that so-designated missile platform the blood of the dead kids downstairs are not on the pilot nor his CO nor his country.
The IDF is bombing "randomly"; most of its airstrikes are targeting women and children to terrorize Hamas; the evidence is the amount of weapons and rockets Hamas has !
The IDF's airstrikes were never aimed toward enemy fighters; but towards civilians !
As in all wars, civilians are killed by both sides. I notice you aren't protesting Hamas' killing of several hundred civilians since Saturday, but rather, working hard to justify their atrocities.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:09 pm
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@ Linux
Not exactly true, but it's a pretty widely accepted sentiment. If israel wants to maintain -any- kind of plausible line that what they're doing is a defensive counter terrorist operation they'll have to be a bit more circumspect than that. Alot more circumspect than the reports coming out of palestine would suggest.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:12 pm
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(October 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The IDF is bombing "randomly"; most of its airstrikes are targeting women and children to terrorize Hamas; the evidence is the amount of weapons and rockets Hamas has !
The IDF's airstrikes were never aimed toward enemy fighters; but towards civilians !
As in all wars, civilians are killed by both sides. I notice you aren't protesting Hamas' killing of several hundred civilians since Saturday, but rather, working hard to justify their atrocities.
I don't need to work hard to do that, I just need to remind people that Gaza is tiny strip with 2 Million people locked behind a wall and bombed periodically for the mere reason of existing.
Bombing such strip is in itself a war crime.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 4:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I don't need to work hard to do that, I just need to remind people that Gaza is tiny strip with 2 Million people locked behind a wall and bombed periodically for the mere reason of existing.
So you're fine with murdering innocent civilians. Got it.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:22 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 4:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I don't need to work hard to do that, I just need to remind people that Gaza is tiny strip with 2 Million people locked behind a wall and bombed periodically for the mere reason of existing.
So you're fine with murdering innocent civilians. Got it.
War is war; even America nukes civilians, even Russia burned civilians, even the British burned German civilians, the Arab moto says : "Eye for an eye, the one who started it is the cruel one".
And Israel was indeed very, very cruel. Almost Nazi, or worse.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:34 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The IDF's airstrikes were never aimed toward enemy fighters or even enemy weapons; but towards civilians !
Sure, that's why the IDF always gives 'em ten mikes to clear the building, they're trying to kill civilians. And Hamas' thousands of rockets are precision rounds that only land on military sites.
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