What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?

(October 19, 2023 at 7:00 pm)WinterHold Wrote: US shot down missiles, drones fired from Yemen ‘potentially towards Israel’; attacks on bases in Iraq, Syria confirmed.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/...aza-church

US shoots down missles directed at Israel?
OUTRAGEOUS!

(October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?

I don't know about others, but I do fear there is no solution as much as many around the world want. I will say that I am tired of people, including my fellow liberals saying it isn't about religion when it is. Some hide behind land, some hide behind ethnicity, some hide behind race, some hide behind culture, but the fact is all three religions have books that claim their God gave them that land. 

Muslims claim Allah gave Palestine to them. 
Christians claim Israel is the Kingdom of Jesus
Jews claim Yahweh gave them the land. 

I will say however between the three, Islam, the Koran and Hadiths are far more political in intent of obedience and spread than the other two. In any case I don't see the religious fever breaking on any side enough to end that standoff. i think recognizing religion as the core cause would go a long way to peace and co existence. But for now, and having seen this conflict since I was a kid, and knowing this land has changed hands for centuries, and more recently since 1948, I don't see an end to it. I wish I had the answers.

(October 19, 2023 at 7:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Greek Orthodox Saint Porphyrius Church compound hit in an Israeli air attack in central Gaza City.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/...aza-church

Israeli terrorism became so bold.

Yeah,at least it only hit the stupid greek orthodox. Why no big fonts, mhm?
I mean, if they had hit muslims that would have been OUTRAGEOUS! Right!?

(October 19, 2023 at 2:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 19, 2023 at 2:38 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Since the U.S and Israel are the ones owning nukes, the bomb must be made by them.

You seem to not understand what a ‘suitcase nuke’ is. It’s essentially a small, low-yield nuclear weapon that can be manufactured by someone with (relatively) low-grade engineering skills. Since the dissolution of the USSR, a lot of national security groups have been concerned about fissile materials falling into terrorist hands.

Please answer the question.

Boru

Edit: Also, if you could do us all a favour and ease off on the big fat text, that’d be great.

There is a lower limit to how small and how weak a simple nuclear bomb can be because it takes a certain critical mass of fissile material to get  a proper nuclear explosion going in the straight forward manner.   That lower limit is in the rough ballpark of the Hiroshima bomb.   Making a weapon substantially smaller and less powerful than that is actually technically quite challenging and it took the superpowers over 10 years to achieve after their first successful nuclear bombs.     A terrorist organization not heavily backed by a major state player is unlikely to be an able to build one.    What terrorists who get their hands on  fissile material what they can do is to build a crude sloppy dirty bomb that doesn’t initiate an actual nuclear explosion but use conventional explosives to pulverize the fissile material and contaminate the area with radioactive material.

(October 19, 2023 at 10:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(October 19, 2023 at 8:27 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: What are Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan, chopped liver?

No, between the fighting parties.
Any nuclear business will be caused by  the U.S and Israel; period.

If fissile materials ever falls into the hands of any terrorist organization(s), it will almost certainly be formerly Soviet materials and you're an absolute fool to believe otherwise.

(October 20, 2023 at 12:03 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(October 19, 2023 at 2:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You seem to not understand what a ‘suitcase nuke’ is. It’s essentially a small, low-yield nuclear weapon that can be manufactured by someone with (relatively) low-grade engineering skills. Since the dissolution of the USSR, a lot of national security groups have been concerned about fissile materials falling into terrorist hands.

Please answer the question.

Boru

Edit: Also, if you could do us all a favour and ease off on the big fat text, that’d be great.

There is a lower limit to how small and how weak a simple nuclear bomb can be because it takes a certain critical mass of fissile material to get  a proper nuclear explosion going in the straight forward manner.   That lower limit is in the rough ballpark of the Hiroshima bomb.   Making a weapon substantially smaller and less powerful than that is actually technically quite challenging and it took the superpowers over 10 years to achieve after their first successful nuclear bombs.     A terrorist organization not heavily backed by a major state player is unlikely to be an able to build one.    What terrorists who get their hands on  fissile material what they can do is to build a crude sloppy dirty bomb that doesn’t initiate an actual nuclear explosion but use conventional explosives to pulverize the fissile material and contaminate the area with radioactive material.

Ok.

Boru

(October 19, 2023 at 4:21 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(October 19, 2023 at 4:09 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: I doubt you know fuck-all about what's happening in your little corner of the world, let alone the world stage.

Do you ever tire of being absolutely, positively, fucking wrong?!?

I'm not wrong. I just read the world stage without being biased.
Don't you see, that the peers of the U.S are not in the Middle East; but there behind the snow of Russia and the Great Wall of China ?

I can see fangs in the dark, wanting to maul your civilization, and believe me you'll wish Muslims were your allies instead of your enemies when the fangs attack you.

Or you thought I was trolling when I used the term "Gog and Magog" ?

Relax,  I never thought it was trolling when you exhibit your characteristic, seemingly implausible, levels of ignorance and stupidity.

(October 20, 2023 at 3:26 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(October 19, 2023 at 10:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote: No, between the fighting parties.
Any nuclear business will be caused by  the U.S and Israel; period.

If fissile materials ever falls into the hands of any terrorist organization(s), it will almost certainly be formerly Soviet materials and you're an absolute fool to believe otherwise.

I think any nuclear business will most likely be radioactive material seized or stolen from academic or medical establishment and made into a dirty bomb.

(October 20, 2023 at 6:52 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What plausible solution that both sides would be willing to implement do you suggest?

You know the solution.

1-Freedom for Gaza citizens from their prison
2-Ending the occupation of Palestine by the Jewish militias
3-paying  war reparations for the damaged 4000 Palestinians in Gaza
4-Issuing law-suites against war criminals that besieged Gaza strip
5-ending the colony of Israel since its existence is a sin of the non-existing British Empire