(October 28, 2023 at 8:33 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(October 28, 2023 at 7:51 am)no one Wrote: Tell me about that flood dmitry?

How many unborn perished?

I don't know

All of them.

Let that sink in...

(October 28, 2023 at 10:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If the brain isn't the source of consciousness then what is? Kidneys? Lungs? The anus?

(my bold)

Considering the way @Dmitry1983 talks out of his, it may be in his case.

(October 28, 2023 at 7:06 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Women engage in sexual activity voluntary knowing that it could lead to pregnancy.

So do men by not wearing condoms, and then further contributing to women needing abortions because the men want nothing to do with having a kid or paying for it.

(October 28, 2023 at 12:52 pm)Foxaèr Wrote:

(October 28, 2023 at 7:06 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Women engage in sexual activity voluntary knowing that it could lead to pregnancy.

So do men by not wearing condoms, and then further contributing to women needing abortions because the men want nothing to do with having a kid or paying for it.

That has me thinking...

Some of the male politicians in the government seem to not have a problem with men impregnating women no matter the reason, even if it leads to a fetus that will eventually lead to a child that the man who had sex with the woman does not want. Yet, they will not allow woman to have abortions if they can't take care of the child or if the man does not want to help raise a child.

This is total hypocrisy, I tell you, and just a way to try and control women. This is not just in regards to politicians who are male, but religious people, with religion being thought of mainly or completely by men to try and control women with all the BS they try to come up with and their attempts to justify it.

It is as if they are not treating women as legal people, which is utter BS. This is just a way to try to gain power over others all just based on one's (in this case, a man's) ideals and thoughts that are wrong and probably underdeveloped, anyway.

(October 28, 2023 at 8:33 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(October 28, 2023 at 7:51 am)no one Wrote: Tell me about that flood dmitry?

How many unborn perished?

I don't know

Coward

If consciousness isn't in the brain, then you're not destroying a self with abortion then, are you?

(October 28, 2023 at 12:50 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:

(October 28, 2023 at 8:33 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: I don't know

All of them.

Let that sink in...

Sink in.  I get it!

Quote:There are neuroscientists that reject physicalism

Yup and that's their opinion not a scientific fact so I don't care 

Quote:Evidence is not enough. You also need adequate explanation. Scientists can't even reproduce a single artificial quale

Nope evidence is enough and even if we never figured out how conscience occurs unless there is evidence of a source other than the brain your argument can be safely rejected 

Quote:If you believe in "My body, my choice", you also should be against forced covid vaccination.

No one is forced to take a vaccine they are denied the ability to do certain things out of an interest in public health. Also, there is a difference between a woman having control over her reproductive cycle and not allowing her to enter spaces where they might spread a lethal sickness to other people. 

Quote:We are comparing minds not bodies.

Irrelevant we are talking about development and an adult is different from a fetus 

Quote:Women engage in sexual activity voluntary knowing that it could lead to pregnancy.

The agreement to sex is not the agreement to pregnancy and the state of remaining pregnant is something the woman has every right to stop there is nothing about her agreement to sex that says otherwise.

Quote:So genocide is ok if the government supports it?

Abortion is not genocide it is neither illegal nor unjustified it's a woman exercising her right to her own reproductive cycle.


Consider your cookie-cutter answers dismantled

Quote:The brain could be a transceiver. Breaking your phone doesn't affect a person you are talking to.

Could be means fuck all.

(October 28, 2023 at 7:06 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(October 28, 2023 at 4:48 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: No one gives a damn what some armchair thinkers say.

There are neuroscientists that reject physicalism

And are they in the minority? If not, is the non-physicalist position growing among neuroscientists? There's always going to be fringe people in any scientific discipline trying to push positions that the majority have long debunked.

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Quote:So this point is moot. It's even more moot by the simple fact the Fetus regardless of ontological status has no right to the woman's body 

If you believe in "My body, my choice", you also should be against forced covid vaccination.

That's a false equivalence for a number of reasons, and perhaps the most cogent of them (besides the fact that refusing to take the vaccine has far more far-reaching consequences than refusing to bear a child) is that, well, the choice to abort is far more likely to be well-informed. Whenever the efficacy of the COVID vaccine has been studied, it's been shown to be both effective against COVID (and even when one gets COVID after getting vaccinated, the sickness is shorter and less severe) and safe.

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Quote:Also, Abortion isn't murder as in numerous places it is not unlawful nor is it unjustified. 

So genocide is ok if government supports it?

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Or that murder is a defined term. Specifically, every dictionary definition I've seen of "Murder" specifies that it's the unlawful killing of a human being. If it's lawful, it's not murder. Homicide, perhaps, but if the law says it's not illegal, it's definitionally not murder.