(October 29, 2023 at 6:48 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 4:56 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah, it's an assumption, although it is an assumption made by observing reality. The available evidence suggests giraffes don't come from nowhere. So it's an informed assumption.

You don't appear to know what an assumption is.

I'll take your word for it. What's an assumption?

(October 29, 2023 at 6:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 6:48 pm)Angrboda Wrote: You don't appear to know what an assumption is.

I'll take your word for it. What's an assumption?

(October 29, 2023 at 7:03 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 6:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I'll take your word for it. What's an assumption?

Right. So it's an assumption that giraffes don't come from nowhere. I'll still say that assumption is correct.

(October 29, 2023 at 7:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:03 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

Right. So it's an assumption that giraffes don't come from nowhere. I'll still say that assumption is correct.

It's in the definition that it is assumed true. You can assume all you like. That doesn't make it necessarily correct. For that you need evidence or argument.

(October 29, 2023 at 7:25 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Right. So it's an assumption that giraffes don't come from nowhere. I'll still say that assumption is correct.

It's in the definition that it is assumed true.  You can assume all you like.  That doesn't make it necessarily correct.  For that you need evidence or argument.

Well I have evidence. Just not enough to prove my assumption is one hundred percent, undeniably true.

I thought this thread started out ridiculously. I'm impressed it's been able to devolve so completely.

(October 29, 2023 at 7:28 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:25 pm)Angrboda Wrote: It's in the definition that it is assumed true.  You can assume all you like.  That doesn't make it necessarily correct.  For that you need evidence or argument.

Well I have evidence. Just not enough to prove my assumption is one hundred percent, undeniably true.

What percentage of all giraffes that have ever lived have had their birth witnessed? Rough guess will do.

(October 29, 2023 at 4:56 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah, it's an assumption, although it is an assumption made by observing reality. The available evidence suggests giraffes don't come from nowhere. So it's an informed assumption.

Right, but you wrote "never", which implies certain knowledge and not an assumption. You don't know that some god didn't zap a giraffe into existence. I agree with you that it seems absolutely stupid and contrary to all human experience.

But that doesn't make it knowledge. All science is tentative.

(October 29, 2023 at 7:25 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Right. So it's an assumption that giraffes don't come from nowhere. I'll still say that assumption is correct.

It's in the definition that it is assumed true.  You can assume all you like.  That doesn't make it necessarily correct.  For that you need evidence or argument.

Frequently when you assume,  you make an ASS out of U and ME.

(October 29, 2023 at 7:28 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(October 29, 2023 at 7:25 pm)Angrboda Wrote: It's in the definition that it is assumed true.  You can assume all you like.  That doesn't make it necessarily correct.  For that you need evidence or argument.

Well I have evidence. Just not enough to prove my assumption is one hundred percent, undeniably true.

Do you have any plans to present your evidence ?