(December 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(December 12, 2023 at 12:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: People should be using birth control because:

-There are large swaths of the world that already have too many people for the resources available.

-Infrastructure tends to not keep pace with population.

-To clarify the above, increasing population tends to strain food/water supplies, medical services, and personal economy.

-Not everyone is fit to be a parent.

Non-stupid people know these things.

Boru

1) And none of those areas include people who use birth control.
2) Work faster, then.
3) I'm not convinced that's true.
4) That never stopped anyone before.

1. Which is exactly the problem, numbnuts.
2. Who are you asking to work faster?
3. Understandable. You’re an idiot.
4. Maybe it should.

Boru

(December 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm)Ahriman Wrote: 1) And none of those areas include people who use birth control.
2) Work faster, then.
3) I'm not convinced that's true.
4) That never stopped anyone before.

1. Which is exactly the problem, numbnuts.
2. Who are you asking to work faster?
3. Understandable. You’re an idiot.
4. Maybe it should.

Boru

I'm pretty sure none of those people living in those areas even want to use birth control.

(December 9, 2023 at 3:06 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote:

(December 9, 2023 at 1:29 pm)brewer Wrote: Um.......... not quite right. Fertility is the ability to create viable gametes and conceive. I think you mean birth rate.

I think we’re both right here. Yes, abortion reduces the birth rate. It also reduces the fertility rate, which is the number of live births per woman. That’s how the UN, demographers, and others (probably sociologists, too!) who study this define it.

Again, unless you're a believer of the great replacement nonsense, why ever would you open this thread?

(December 12, 2023 at 11:38 am)Ahriman Wrote:

(December 12, 2023 at 11:26 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Having smaller families doesn't make humans obsolete unless if falls below replacement rate globally for generations. Our robot overlords are much more likely to render us obsolete.

Why would it even need to get to that point? That's like saying, "well, my kitchen is on fire, but I won't do anything about it until the whole house is on fire". And in this context, "having smaller families" just means, having families without children.

Strange, considering that when I wrote about it yesterday, when I mentioned "Smaller families," it wasn't just "no children." You could still have children with smaller families. There'd just be fewer kids (I didn't have a cutoff threshold in mind, but thinking about that, I guess three would have been a good maximum for what constitutes a "smaller family.")

(December 12, 2023 at 3:46 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(December 12, 2023 at 11:38 am)Ahriman Wrote: Why would it even need to get to that point? That's like saying, "well, my kitchen is on fire, but I won't do anything about it until the whole house is on fire". And in this context, "having smaller families" just means, having families without children.

Strange, considering that when I wrote about it yesterday, when I mentioned "Smaller families," it wasn't just "no children." You could still have children with smaller families. There'd just be fewer kids (I didn't have a cutoff threshold in mind, but thinking about that, I guess three would have been a good maximum for what constitutes a "smaller family.")

And you're willing to enfore that quota, if need be?

(December 12, 2023 at 1:10 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(December 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Which is exactly the problem, numbnuts.
2. Who are you asking to work faster?
3. Understandable. You’re an idiot.
4. Maybe it should.

Boru

I'm pretty sure none of those people living in those areas even want to use birth control.

The woman who is heavily pregnant with her eighth child in nine years might be interested in it.

Boru

I am not looking to Ahriman for input on multiple pregnancies. I can't imagine anyone less qualified to speak on the subject.

I grew up in an area where 8, 10, 12, 14 kids weren't unusual. And not just farm families.

A good friend has older siblings she barely knows there were so many years between them and the last three, of which she was a part.

Her dad was a small town doctor. Her mother joked that she got pregnant every time he was able to actually stay home all night. There were ten of them.

Five to eight was the norm.