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RE: Why no Mars
October 8, 2024 at 9:10 am
(October 8, 2024 at 12:33 am)AFTT47 Wrote: (October 7, 2024 at 11:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Yeah? Me, from my perspective, he thinks of one individual.
I can guarantee you he doesn't give a shit about me, or you. If he cares about humanity as a whole, why did he threaten Ukraine with cutting off Starlink until the Pentagon told him off? Or perhaps he could sign off on at-cost contracts, if he's so beneficent? Maybe get along with unions in his plants?
I'm not sure where you're getting this philanthropist angle from. Maybe you should get into detail on this. Me, it looks like he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself.
I have read several books on Musk including the histories of Tesla and SpaceX. All were written by third parties. He got rich off of PayPal and put everything into those two companies - both which he acknowledged had a slim chance of success - and he damn-near bankrupted both companies and himself. He honestly believed he was doing good in creating those companies. The man slept on the factory floors until he succeeded. He honestly believes that establishing a settlement on Mars is the most important thing to humanity. But he doesn't care about who he has to trample over to get there. He couldn't care less about the happiness or welfare of those toiling away in his factories aside from them remaining content enough to stay there. Again, he doesn't care about individuals. He's not a nice guy.
He's a heartless bastard. But if he didn't care about what he was doing, he could just buy an island nation in the Caribbean and spend the rest of his life being served by a staff of ten thousand female Olympic gymnasts.
He's working actively to undermine our democracy.
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RE: Why no Mars
October 8, 2024 at 12:55 pm
(October 8, 2024 at 9:10 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 8, 2024 at 12:33 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I have read several books on Musk including the histories of Tesla and SpaceX. All were written by third parties. He got rich off of PayPal and put everything into those two companies - both which he acknowledged had a slim chance of success - and he damn-near bankrupted both companies and himself. He honestly believed he was doing good in creating those companies. The man slept on the factory floors until he succeeded. He honestly believes that establishing a settlement on Mars is the most important thing to humanity. But he doesn't care about who he has to trample over to get there. He couldn't care less about the happiness or welfare of those toiling away in his factories aside from them remaining content enough to stay there. Again, he doesn't care about individuals. He's not a nice guy.
He's a heartless bastard. But if he didn't care about what he was doing, he could just buy an island nation in the Caribbean and spend the rest of his life being served by a staff of ten thousand female Olympic gymnasts.
He's working actively to undermine our democracy.
We're getting a little off-track. My argument is that SpaceX (as well as Tesla) is a major plus for humanity. I don't disagree that Musk is a supreme douchebag and seems to be getting worse by the day.
This kind of thing is nothing new. Most people are aware that the famous inventor Thomas Edison was about as nasty as they come. Famous aviator Charles Lindbergh was a major antisemite and racist. Famous industrialist Henry Ford was even worse than Lindbergh - so bad that Adolph Hitler supposedly had an oil painting of him in his office. Musk is the latest in the line of great contributors who also happens to be a human turd.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 8, 2024 at 1:08 pm
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The ‘Why no Mars’ thread has been merged into this one, since the other thread has become more about Musk himself that the feasibility of his Mars project.
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RE: Why no Mars
October 8, 2024 at 1:17 pm
(October 8, 2024 at 12:55 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: We're getting a little off-track. My argument is that SpaceX (as well as Tesla) is a major plus for humanity. I don't disagree that Musk is a supreme douchebag and seems to be getting worse by the day.
My point is that any benefit arising from his zooming a few dozen folks to a Martian colony as a vanity project pales in comparison to the risk he poses to the world's oldest democracy and free expression. "Major plus"? Nah. We could have these advances without his dangers. Directing money to his companies is supporting his undermining of our democracy.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 8, 2024 at 2:22 pm
Imagine if Galaxy Brain focused on a way to clean up this planet. As Uncle Carl said, "No one is coming to save us from ourselves."
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RE: Elon Musk
October 8, 2024 at 2:59 pm
(October 8, 2024 at 2:22 pm)Nanny Wrote: Imagine if Galaxy Brain focused on a way to clean up this planet. As Uncle Carl said, "No one is coming to save us from ourselves."
He once offered a $1 million prize for the best idea to absorb and sequester carbon. I suggested planting trees. Haven’t heard back.
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RE: Why no Mars
October 8, 2024 at 5:25 pm
(October 7, 2024 at 11:06 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Elon Musk cares about humanity as a whole. He cares nothing for individuals. Individuals are cogs in the whole and are replaceable. That's how he thinks.
No he doesn't. The only person Galaxy Brain even considers to be a human being is Galaxy Brain himself. His vision for Mars is a colony with him as omnipotent ruler over everybody else as slaves.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 9, 2024 at 8:22 am
The "free" Starlink service Musk so graciously promised for communities devastated by Hurricane Helene is not actually free, according to those living in the aftermath - and the signup page.
It's just the usual 30-day trial & you have to buy the hardware.
https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/08/f...ne_helene/
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RE: Elon Musk
October 9, 2024 at 10:06 am
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Meanwhile, shahed drones now come with starlink as a standard feature. Member when elmo cut ukraines service, that the dod paid for, because he didn't feel it should be used for combat? Yeah, nonsense.
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RE: Elon Musk
October 9, 2024 at 10:12 am
And the thing that will be remembered is "free". They will not even process the fact that it is - not free.
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