Only circumstantially. It’s primarily a political phenomenon.

Boru

(June 8, 2025 at 9:31 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: There are no hopeless situations in this world. Only hopeless individuals (that how I see it) 

The only tiny bit of hope I see here is that people are finally waking up to the horror of it. 

Not that long ago, if you said that Israel is doing bad things in Gaza, people would automatically say "Hamas!!!" As if this justified shooting little kids in the head. We have been trained for years to fear Muslim terrorism to the point that we allow anything at all in the name of fighting against it.

But even the BBC and other consistently Israel-justifying news outlets are starting to admit that something terrible is happening. As usual, they wake up when it's too late, but at least they are starting to tell the truth. 

Not that it will have any effect on the main genocide-enabler, the US government. Even fake progressive AOC came out with AIPAC talking points a week ago. 

Of course the pro-Israel people are mocking Greta and her boat. But the only sane question is: why weren't there a hundred more boats alongside?

Belacqua Wrote:Not that long ago, if you said that Israel is doing bad things in Gaza, people would automatically say "Hamas!!!"

Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a typical religious conflict frequent in many countries where different religions have to coexist. There is no right side or wrong side since they are both delusional. If they let go of their religions, there would be no conflict.

Belacqua Wrote:We have been trained for years to fear Muslim terrorism to the point that we allow anything at all in the name of fighting against it.

Trained? So we shouldn't fear Muslim terrorism because it's like good terrorism?

Belacqua Wrote:But even the BBC and other consistently Israel-justifying news outlets are starting to admit that something terrible is happening. As usual, they wake up when it's too late, but at least they are starting to tell the truth.

Not that it will have any effect on the main genocide-enabler, the US government. Even fake progressive AOC came out with AIPAC talking points a week ago.

So we should not fear Muslim terrorism, but rather Jews and the American government, both of which are evil. How enlightening.

Here is a nice quote from Senator Bernies Sanders. Back in the days I had wished Al Gore had been elected instead of George W. Bush. The Republican base did not agree with me at that time either 





As we speak many Iranians are fleeing toward Turkey. Just like Iraq before the dictator Saddam came to power, most of them are people who love their country and want to live there as long as they are not being illegally detain by political Islamists or bombed by Jewish religious extremists.
 
While I have no choice but the joins the calls for the cessation of hostilities in order to spare civilians from both sides I must also stress that we should be pushing for a third way (the first being to let Iran do whatever it wants, the second being to attack Iran militarily).
 
First of all nations have a karma too. The IRI has been supporting political Islamists and several sectarian organizations in my country for years. The Shah Regime before 1979 was not a perfect regime either but the IRI is a regime without any values or sense of honor. These are people who distort everything in their own minds and feel entitled to do anything including the murder of their own people in the hundreds.
 
So as a person of faith I don’t feel alarmed when something hits such nations in some way. I am a part of those who believe that that’s just the way things are
 
/Still, most Iranians (the Iranian diaspora mainly) are talking of a third way. They don’t want to see their country turn into rubble. The dismantling of dictators by military means does not produce results in our time (Look at Libya, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan). What they want is the international community not negotiating with the IRI anymore. They want to be heard as the true representatives of Iran. They want backing for their civil society. + More sanctions to hit the Regime (I’ve heard that Iranian Gas is still being sold to Europe via China. If more sanctions are being brought – that hit the regime, not the people of Iran – than there could be more results).
 
After hearing Bernie Sanders I have decided that Netanyahu is a very angry man. Still, removing the IRI threat without turning the country into Iraq or Syria (I mean the international community as a whole) that would be a sign that we are moving in the right direction (as a specie).
 
Besides: Trump isn’t supporting Vodimyr Zelensky because he doesn’t want to afford the costs. So how is he going to support Israel with 200 million dollars / day? (As a white supremacist of some sort)

He was elected, just not installed. Yall Qaedas clerics on the bench saw to it. The political and the spiritual are not entirely and cannot be entirely divorced from each other. They struggle over shared content in normative ideation.

Nations do not have karma. The imperial powers would've been a smoldering shithole long ago if that were, in any sense, true. Nonsense about trump not supporting ukraine because of the cost. We make money out of the deals. He doesn;t support ukraine for the same reason he hasn't already bombed iran into the stone age. An affinity for dictatorships.