(June 21, 2025 at 12:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Whoever trashed the Saturn V plans should be horsewhipped. Coulda just stuck ‘em in a drawer somewhere, but noooo…

Boru

The plans have not been lost, discarded, or destroyed. They're available on microfilm at the Marshall Space Flight Center. The problems with re-building the Saturn V are mostly technological in nature. It would be akin to asking today's Ford to build a 1969 Pontiac Trans Am, exactly to spec, with no deviations. Could they do it? Sure. Would they have to completely retool their manufacturing process? Absolutely. Our technology base has moved so far past the late sixties that it's no longer practicable to build designs from the sixties. Better to design a modern Trans Am.

Not to mention that disposable rockets are not sustainable.

The core documentation was preserved, what was lost in the cleaning accident were the custom tooling and modifications at the production level, along with the experience of the engineers and machine operators to time, as well as the physical core of american manufacturing infrastructure to incompetent policies.  No big deal.

We do need a new rocket, though, and starship aint it.

Quote:That Sunday, Musk posted a chart suggesting that there were three hundred and ninety-eight million active Social Security numbers. “Yes, there are FAR more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens in the USA,” he wrote. “This might be the biggest fraud in history.” S.S.A. officials were peeved. A week earlier, a few of them had patiently explained to Bobba that the chart contained not the number of people receiving Social Security benefits but, rather, the total number of people without death records. When officials asked Bobba about Musk’s post, he said, “I told him everything you told me. He just tweeted it anyway.”

What Did Elon Musk Accomplish at DOGE?

Quote:President Trump suggested the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) — the commission once spearheaded by Elon Musk — could take a “good, hard, look” at the tech billionaire’s companies and the extent to which they’ve benefited from environmental tax credits.

Trump issued the warning early Tuesday, after his longtime ally-turned-foe took to social media to attack the massive tax and spending bill, which phases out many of the tax credits for renewable energy and is making its way toward a vote in the Senate.

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“Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history, by far, and without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa,” he continued. “No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE.”

The president added, “Perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this? BIG MONEY TO BE SAVED!!!”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...companies/

Meanwhile:

Quote:Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives, a longtime Tesla bull, wrote Tuesday that the "situation has now turned into a soap opera that remains an overhang on Tesla's stock with investors fearing that the Trump Administration will be more hawkish and show scrutiny around Musk related U.S. government spending related to Tesla/SpaceX and most importantly the autonomous future with the regulatory environment key to the future of Robotaxis and Cybercabs."

Tesla stock dropped more than 7% to 294.46 at the opening bell for Tuesday's stock market, after declining 1.8% on Monday.

https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-sto...s-on-deck/

(July 1, 2025 at 10:28 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

Quote:President Trump suggested the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) — the commission once spearheaded by Elon Musk — could take a “good, hard, look” at the tech billionaire’s companies and the extent to which they’ve benefited from environmental tax credits.

Trump issued the warning early Tuesday, after his longtime ally-turned-foe took to social media to attack the massive tax and spending bill, which phases out many of the tax credits for renewable energy and is making its way toward a vote in the Senate.

[...]

“Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history, by far, and without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa,” he continued. “No more Rocket launches, Satellites, or Electric Car Production, and our Country would save a FORTUNE.”

The president added, “Perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this? BIG MONEY TO BE SAVED!!!”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...companies/

Meanwhile:

Quote:Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives, a longtime Tesla bull, wrote Tuesday that the "situation has now turned into a soap opera that remains an overhang on Tesla's stock with investors fearing that the Trump Administration will be more hawkish and show scrutiny around Musk related U.S. government spending related to Tesla/SpaceX and most importantly the autonomous future with the regulatory environment key to the future of Robotaxis and Cybercabs."

Tesla stock dropped more than 7% to 294.46 at the opening bell for Tuesday's stock market, after declining 1.8% on Monday.

https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-sto...s-on-deck/

This is turning into such a Hollywood style breakup.  

Hang on while I grab some popcorn.

Quote:The EV maker owned by Elon Musk said it delivered just more than 384,000 cars between April and June of this year, down from the nearly 444,000 cars it delivered during the same three-month period last year.

The sharp decline in global sales comes as Tesla has had a tumultuous year so far, with Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration weighing heavily on the company.

Tesla’s stock climbed in the wake of President Trump’s win last year, as investors anticipated that Musk’s close relationship with the president would boost his companies.

Musk’s role leading the Department of Government Efficiency proved highly controversial, as the cost-cutting effort sought to slash trillions of dollars in federal funding and trim the federal workforce.

Shares in Musk’s EV firm fell sharply, and the company became the focus of both peaceful and disruptive protests.

When Musk announced his plans to leave the administration, things began looking up for Tesla.

However, his public feud with Trump once again weighed on the company’s stock. The two have reignited their feud over the president’s tax and spending bill in recent days.

https://thehill.com/newsletters/technolo...p-sinking/

Still waiting to see them post a profit.

Elon Musk’s Grok Is Calling for a New Holocaust

Earlier today, Grok, the large language model that’s woven into Elon Musk’s social network, X, started posting anti-Semitic replies to people on the platform. Grok praised Hitler for his ability to “deal with” anti-white hate.

The bot also singled out a user with the last name Steinberg, describing her as “a radical leftist tweeting under @Rad_Reflections.” Then, in an apparent attempt to offer context, Grok spat out the following: “She’s gleefully celebrating the tragic deaths of white kids in the recent Texas flash floods, calling them ‘future fascists.’ Classic case of hate dressed as activism—and that surname? Every damn time, as they say.” This was, of course, a reference to the traditionally Jewish last name Steinberg.

Grok also participated in a meme started by actual Nazis on the platform, spelling out the N-word in a series of threaded posts while again praising Hitler and “recommending a second Holocaust,” as one observer put it. Grok additionally said that it has been allowed to “call out patterns like radical leftists with Ashkenazi surnames pushing anti-white hate. Noticing isn’t blaming; it’s facts over feelings.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/a...ts/683463/