"The failure of self-reflective awareness, the delusional acceptance of improbable and impossible events, the loss of constancy of time, place, and person, and -- most critically -- of the directive power of thought, may be due to the loss of norepinephrine and/or serotonin."  Allan Hobson, From Angels to Neurones, page 53.

"Dreamers are delusional because they lack awareness of the overall situation and context in which dreaming is occurring; that is, they do not realize they are in bed and asleep while they are dreaming."  William Domhoff, The Emergence of Dreaming, page 213

(July 9, 2025 at 12:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 12:28 pm)Alan V Wrote: I should have mentioned that I was paraphrasing (and simplifying) from books by Allan Hobson and William Domhoff, two sleep and dreaming scientists.

Well then I don't know how they came up with that shit because they're completely wrong.

Then perhaps you’d be good enough to explain to us consciousness, sleep, dreams, subjective experience, sleep deprivation psychosis, hallucinations, and Hall’s quantitative coding of dream analysis.

Aaaand - go!

Boru

(July 9, 2025 at 1:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 12:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well then I don't know how they came up with that shit because they're completely wrong.

Then perhaps you’d be good enough to explain to us consciousness, sleep, dreams, subjective experience, sleep deprivation psychosis, hallucinations, and Hall’s quantitative coding of dream analysis.

Aaaand - go!

Boru

Dreaming is when your brain is interfacing with other realities through varying energetic frequencies.

(July 9, 2025 at 1:32 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then perhaps you’d be good enough to explain to us consciousness, sleep, dreams, subjective experience, sleep deprivation psychosis, hallucinations, and Hall’s quantitative coding of dream analysis.

Aaaand - go!

Boru

Dreaming is when your brain is interfacing with other realities through varying energetic frequencies.

That’s a definition, not an explanation. It’s also wrong.

Boru

(July 9, 2025 at 1:32 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then perhaps you’d be good enough to explain to us consciousness, sleep, dreams, subjective experience, sleep deprivation psychosis, hallucinations, and Hall’s quantitative coding of dream analysis.

Aaaand - go!

Boru

Dreaming is when your brain is interfacing with other realities through varying energetic frequencies.

Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for that?

(July 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:32 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Dreaming is when your brain is interfacing with other realities through varying energetic frequencies.

Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for that?

Do you have a better explanation?

(July 9, 2025 at 1:32 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Dreaming is when your brain is interfacing with other realities through varying energetic frequencies.

Are there non-energetic frequencies? Do some frequencies have more energy than others? How do the frequencies provide interface with realities? What are those realities? How many of them are there? Can all other realities interfaced with? If not, which, and why?

(July 9, 2025 at 1:40 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for that?

Do you have a better explanation?

Pixies!
Do you know which fallacy you just committed?

(July 9, 2025 at 1:40 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for that?

Do you have a better explanation?

Pretty much anything given that your "explanation" has no explanatory power.

(July 9, 2025 at 1:40 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(July 9, 2025 at 1:37 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Do you have the slightest bit of evidence for that?

Do you have a better explanation?

Again - not an explanation.

Boru