There is no direct, observable, or testable evidence that proves the existence of a god or creator.

Despite centuries of searching, we have not found verifiable signs of divine intervention or supernatural activity that cannot be explained by natural phenomena.

Naturalistic explanations have been successful in explaining the origins and workings of the universe, life, and consciousness.

Evolution by natural selection explains the diversity of life without invoking a designer. Cosmology offers models of universe formation without requiring a creator.

God of the Gaps. Invoking God to explain the unknown has historically been replaced by natural explanations as knowledge progresses.

Some theists calling the universe "God" is unnecessary and risks mystification. We should embrace the clarity that the universe is awe-inspiring enough without inventing a divine label for it. Reason and evidence, not philosophy alone, guide us to truth.

Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.

Did you just discover atheism?

Boru

(June 25, 2025 at 9:31 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: There is no direct, observable, or testable evidence that proves the existence of a god or creator.

Despite centuries of searching, we have not found verifiable signs of divine intervention or supernatural activity that cannot be explained by natural phenomena.

Naturalistic explanations have been successful in explaining the origins and workings of the universe, life, and consciousness.

Evolution by natural selection explains the diversity of life without invoking a designer. Cosmology offers models of universe formation without requiring a creator.

God of the Gaps. Invoking God to explain the unknown has historically been replaced by natural explanations as knowledge progresses.

Some theists calling the universe "God" is unnecessary and risks mystification. We should embrace the clarity that the universe is awe-inspiring enough without inventing a divine label for it. Reason and evidence, not philosophy alone, guide us to truth.

Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.

I can get spiritual on occasion, but that doesn't affect my atheism.

(June 25, 2025 at 9:31 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.

I have some problems with this item. Sounds like thought control which I do not condone. Teach critical and secular thinking, yes. But no dictating how people should think.

(June 25, 2025 at 9:31 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: There is no direct, observable, or testable evidence that proves the existence of a god or creator.

Despite centuries of searching, we have not found verifiable signs of divine intervention or supernatural activity that cannot be explained by natural phenomena.

Naturalistic explanations have been successful in explaining the origins and workings of the universe, life, and consciousness.

Evolution by natural selection explains the diversity of life without invoking a designer. Cosmology offers models of universe formation without requiring a creator.

God of the Gaps. Invoking God to explain the unknown has historically been replaced by natural explanations as knowledge progresses.

Some theists calling the universe "God" is unnecessary and risks mystification. We should embrace the clarity that the universe is awe-inspiring enough without inventing a divine label for it. Reason and evidence, not philosophy alone, guide us to truth.

Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.

Nothing is wrong until you got to the bolded bit.

Not only have religious/spiritual people made tremendous and beneficial scientific advances, in many cases they have done so because of their religious beliefs, not in spite of them. Science aside, breathtakingly moving achievements in painting, sculpture, literature, and music have often been the products of religious beliefs. 

Boru

I hope that someday everyone can embrace the facts.

Meanwhile different individuals and groups learn at their own rates. I am happy with a diversity of beliefs since that prevents any one group from getting too powerful and trying to impose their wills on others.

(July 20, 2025 at 5:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 9:31 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: There is no direct, observable, or testable evidence that proves the existence of a god or creator.

Despite centuries of searching, we have not found verifiable signs of divine intervention or supernatural activity that cannot be explained by natural phenomena.

Naturalistic explanations have been successful in explaining the origins and workings of the universe, life, and consciousness.

Evolution by natural selection explains the diversity of life without invoking a designer. Cosmology offers models of universe formation without requiring a creator.

God of the Gaps. Invoking God to explain the unknown has historically been replaced by natural explanations as knowledge progresses.

Some theists calling the universe "God" is unnecessary and risks mystification. We should embrace the clarity that the universe is awe-inspiring enough without inventing a divine label for it. Reason and evidence, not philosophy alone, guide us to truth.

Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.

Nothing is wrong until you got to the bolded bit.

Not only have religious/spiritual people made tremendous and beneficial scientific advances, in many cases they have done so because of their religious beliefs, not in spite of them. Science aside, breathtakingly moving achievements in painting, sculpture, literature, and music have often been the products of religious beliefs. 

Boru

True, if it wasn't for religion, Bach would not have written the wonderful music that he did  (I still think religion is silly, but that doesn't stop me enjoying the side effects!)

(July 20, 2025 at 6:23 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote:

(July 20, 2025 at 5:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nothing is wrong until you got to the bolded bit.

Not only have religious/spiritual people made tremendous and beneficial scientific advances, in many cases they have done so because of their religious beliefs, not in spite of them. Science aside, breathtakingly moving achievements in painting, sculpture, literature, and music have often been the products of religious beliefs. 

Boru

True, if it wasn't for religion, Bach would not have written the wonderful music that he did  (I still think religion is silly, but that doesn't stop me enjoying the side effects!)

This is Michelangelo’s Pietà.



It’s one of my favourite sculptures. Even apart from the subject matter and the fact that Michelangelo was a devout (one might almost say ‘fanatical’) Catholic, when I look at it, I don’t see Jesus and Mary - I see a grieving mother cradling the body of her brutally murdered son. It’s terribly sad and profoundly moving.

Boru

(July 20, 2025 at 6:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: This is Michelangelo’s Pietà.



It’s one of my favourite sculptures. Even apart from the subject matter and the fact that Michelangelo was a devout (one might almost say ‘fanatical’) Catholic, when I look at it, I don’t see Jesus and Mary - I see a grieving mother cradling the body of her brutally murdered son. It’s terribly sad and profoundly moving.

Boru

Idk if it was so rosy as you say. It also seems that Catholicsm restricted Michelangelo and caused him to make some ugly art. Like when he painted or chiseled nude female body, he would basically make a man with tits that looked more like tumors:



As if he restricted himself because he thought that the realistic (attractive) nude female body had some negative or sinful connotations.