(September 5, 2026 at 7:04 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 6:53 pm)Angrboda Wrote: At the end of the day, the truth is plain.  The world looks exactly like it would if there were no god.  Sticking God into every crack and crevice you can find doesn't fix that.

Except it would lack gravity.  

What part of gravity confuses you? Do we have a member of the Intelligent Falling community with us?

(September 5, 2026 at 7:05 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 6:55 pm)Jal Wrote: Every crack and crevice? Who's lying now?

You are...? I mean, it really looks like you are. Perhaps you have some evidence of your deity of choice...? Something that hasn't been done to death a billion times over by cheap hacks calling themselves apologists. Right now I'd be thrilled to see something new and not the same regurgitated rubbish. Hoping against hope here.

Proving God's existence wasn't the goal of launching this thread.

But along the way, I pointed out that God is the most sane explanation for the so-called "forces" of nature such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, electro-magnetism, and nuclear attractions.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:07 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:04 pm)Jal Wrote: Except it would lack gravity.  

What part of gravity confuses you? Do we have a member of the Intelligent Falling community with us?

 Gravity is not defined as tangible matter. If it is an intangible, it cannot push tangible matter. Common sense.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:12 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:05 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: You are...? I mean, it really looks like you are. Perhaps you have some evidence of your deity of choice...? Something that hasn't been done to death a billion times over by cheap hacks calling themselves apologists. Right now I'd be thrilled to see something new and not the same regurgitated rubbish. Hoping against hope here.

Proving God's existence wasn't the goal of launching this thread.

But along the way, I pointed out that God is the most sane explanation for the so-called "forces" of nature such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, electro-magnetism, and nuclear attractions.

No, you leaned on an axiom you pulled from your ass. That's not the same thing.

And here's the thing, aside from your bogus principle, we have tons of evidence of the way the world works, and it isn't a trickster god behaving mysteriously.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:14 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:12 pm)Jal Wrote: Proving God's existence wasn't the goal of launching this thread.

But along the way, I pointed out that God is the most sane explanation for the so-called "forces" of nature such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, electro-magnetism, and nuclear attractions.

No, you leaned on an axiom you pulled from your ass.  That's not the same thing.

Yeah just like my disbelief in square circles. I pulled that stance from my ass.

OR, maybe I just relied on common sense.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:13 pm)Jal Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:07 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: What part of gravity confuses you? Do we have a member of the Intelligent Falling community with us?

 Gravity is not defined as tangible matter. If it is an intangible, it cannot push tangible matter. Common sense.

Really?

Drops a safe onto Jal and watches as it accelerates

Looks pretty tangible to me. Do you tang it pulling you down right now? Perhaps your definition is wrong.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:16 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:13 pm)Jal Wrote:  Gravity is not defined as tangible matter. If it is an intangible, it cannot push tangible matter. Common sense.

Really?

Drops a safe onto Jal and watches as it accelerates

Looks pretty tangible to me. Do you tang it pulling you down right now? Perhaps your definition is wrong.

You define gravity as tangible matter? You could pour me a cup of gravity?  In that case, tell me what vitamins and minerals it has.  Could prove excellent for my health.

(September 5, 2026 at 7:12 pm)Jal Wrote: Proving God's existence wasn't the goal of launching this thread.

Ri-ight. Pull the other one. It has bells on.

Quote:But along the way, I pointed out that God is the most sane explanation for the so-called "forces" of nature such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, electro-magnetism, and nuclear attractions.

Do you often invoke Bronze Age Canaanite deities who enjoy child sacrifices when something sticks to your fridge? Is that your definition of sanity?

(September 5, 2026 at 7:20 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(September 5, 2026 at 7:12 pm)Jal Wrote: Proving God's existence wasn't the goal of launching this thread.

Ri-ight. Pull the other one. It has bells on.

Quote:But along the way, I pointed out that God is the most sane explanation for the so-called "forces" of nature such as gravity, electricity, magnetism, electro-magnetism, and nuclear attractions.

Do you often invoke Bronze Age Canaanite deities who enjoy child sacrifices when something sticks to your fridge? Is that your definition of sanity?

Do you often change the subject when you don't like what is being said?

(September 5, 2026 at 7:19 pm)Jal Wrote: You define gravity as tangible matter? You could pour me a cup of gravity?  In that case, tell me what vitamins and minerals it has.  Could prove excellent for my health.

Could you define "tangible" for me? You appear to be confused.