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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:21 am
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It’s not my problem that you’re not describing Christ man. That’s your problem. If I took you at your word, I could only conclude that somewhere along the way you stopped being a Christian and just didn’t realize it. There’s a chance that you’re trying to rescue a thing you no longer believe in for reasons of sentimentality and sunk cost.
You wouldn’t be the only new age flake this has happened to in the world…hell you wouldn’t even be the only one on this forum like that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:28 am
(September 18, 2026 at 10:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It’s not my problem that you’re not describing Christ man. That’s your problem. If I took you at your word, I could only conclude that somewhere along the way you stopped being a Christian and just didn’t realize it. There’s a chance that you’re trying to rescue a thing you no longer believe in for reasons of sentimentality and sunk cost.
You wouldn’t be the only new age flake this has happened to in the world…hell you wouldn’t even be the only one on this forum like that.
Unsupported. Already on this thread I have taken steps to show my theology is more faithful to the Bible than traditional Christianity, because it resolves logical contradictions.
If being more faithful to the Bible makes me NOT A CHRISTIAN (in your eyes), that's where I am content to remain.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:31 am
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Your explanation of why you think panpsychism saves the trinity is literally the modalist heresy. It’s not faithful to scripture, it rejects scripture. That’s why it was declared heretical.
Do you worship the god described in magic book or do you worship at the secular altar of human reason? If it’s the first thing…or you want it to be…then you might have to make peace with the fact that some things will be difficult to believe. No shortage of Christian commentary on that. Sort of the point of faith, eh?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:48 am
(September 18, 2026 at 10:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your explanation of why you think panpsychism saves the trinity is literally the modalist heresy. It’s not faithful to scripture, it rejects scripture. That’s why it was declared heretical.
No, it's not modalism. Modalism is mono-volitional, it's one person unequivocally. In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus said:
"Not my will, Father, but thy will be done."
To paraphrase
"Not my volition, Father, but thy volition be done."
Here we see two distinct volitions, contrary to modalism's idea of one person (one volition) manifested three ways.
Ironically, the traditional Trinity is implicitly modalistic because it defines God as an indivisible Person - obviously indivisible into three opposing parts/volitions. That's one reason why even Millard J Erickson admitted that the traditional Trinity is logically "absurd from the human standpoint" (Millard J. Erickson, Christian Theology (Grand Rapids: Baker Books, 2001, reprint), p. 367).
Note that Millard J Erickson's book, in its hey day, was the most prominent systematic theology textbook in seminaries worldwide. (Possibly still holds that ranking).
After 2000 years, panpsychism finally ESCAPES modalism. How so? Self-locomotion by free will means:
self-locomotion by free volition.
Each particle is volitional. This is multi-volitionality at its zenith. It is the very ANTITHESIS of modalism. It perfectly explains why Christ was able to say:
"Not my volition, Father, but thy volition be done."
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:51 am
(September 18, 2026 at 10:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your explanation of why you think panpsychism saves the trinity is literally the modalist heresy. It’s not faithful to scripture, it rejects scripture. That’s why it was declared heretical.
Do you worship the god described in magic book or do you worship at the secular altar of human reason? If it’s the first thing…or you want it to be…then you might have to make peace with the fact that some things will be difficult to believe. No shortage of Christian commentary on that. Sort of the point of faith, eh?
There you ago again with "magic". There's no magic in the Bible, there's nothing supernatural.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:54 am
Like clockwork…confronted with your percentage based modalism you resort to polytheism.
How did I know that was going to happen…do you think?
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 10:59 am
(September 18, 2026 at 10:54 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Like clockwork…confronted with your percentage based modalism you resort to polytheism.
How did I know that was going to happen…do you think?
Percentage based modalism? Now you're stooping to random oxymorons as your latest basis for arbitrary accusations and cheap-shots.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 11:11 am
Externalizing your failures won’t resolve the issues you’ve electively saddled the great fairy with for no benefit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 11:19 am
(September 18, 2026 at 11:11 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Externalizing your failures won’t resolve the issues you’ve electively saddled the great fairy with for no benefit.
Yeah, you're not showing much integrity in our latest exchanges. I am not even expecting you to cite theology professors.
But I would expect you to carefully explain how traditional theology lines up with the Bible more faithfully than panpsychism, if that's what you want to keep insinuating.
In a word, you're not doing your due diligence.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 11:24 am
I’m not doing my due diligence because you don’t know shit?
There’s a problem with god. There’s a problem with science. There’s a problem with all of the stupid Christian philosophers for twenty centuries. Theres a problem with all of the secular philosophers alive today. There’s a problem with everyone you’ve interacted with on this forum.
Never a problem with you though, huh.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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