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God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
#41
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Why is it so hard for you chippy to say "I really don't know, but I would like to find out" ...? Hmm??

There is no crime for not knowing, the crime is when you are given the tools and still you will not look.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#42
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 8:25 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: No chippy it does not require faith at all. THAT is something YOU demand and probably will never find. You are inadequate in your understanding.

Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#43
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
See my post above chippy ..

You are still worthless.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#44
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 8:35 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: See my post above chippy ..

You are still worthless.

What exactly do you think I don't know? All I see is unprecedented logic on your part.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#45
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
Right back at chya mate...all you've got is a silly little book from Iron-age goat herders. And on evidence on your part.

You have no evidence. You are too closed minded to even contemplate alternatives that don't agree with your silly. little. book.

You know nothing.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#46
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 8:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Right back at chya mate...all you've got is a silly little book from Iron-age goat herders. And on evidence on your part.

You have no evidence. You are too closed minded to even contemplate alternatives that don't agree with your silly. little. book.

You know nothing.

And you don't even have a method of origin of life. You just skip the gap in your head.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#47
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am)chipan Wrote: Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.

You do not have a process. You have a hypothesis with no evidence.

LastPoet linked to a natural process which can cause Abiogenesis, but we have no evidence as yet, that is the process used in primordial soups.

If you wish to state that you have a process, you must accept the process "Genie of the Lamp" did it is equiprobable to your own.

Do I believe in a process? We can prove a process exists, which you have agreed to the logic of. You are being disingenuous by attaching the word nonexistent when clearly, even if it was "God did Magic" as a process.

However, you are making the illogical leap that "God Did Magic" in the absence of evidence of a natural process (the fact evidence does exist for natural processes is irrelevant atm).
If we can find no alternative process to the one shown by Miller-Urey, then by rights of Occams Razor, this is more likely than "no process, was magic".
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#48
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 8:51 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:
(February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am)chipan Wrote: Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.

You do not have a process. You have a hypothesis with no evidence.

LastPoet linked to a natural process which can cause Abiogenesis, but we have no evidence as yet, that is the process used in primordial soups.

If you wish to state that you have a process, you must accept the process "Genie of the Lamp" did it is equiprobable to your own.

Do I believe in a process? We can prove a process exists, which you have agreed to the logic of. You are being disingenuous by attaching the word nonexistent when clearly, even if it was "God did Magic" as a process.

However, you are making the illogical leap that "God Did Magic" in the absence of evidence of a natural process (the fact evidence does exist for natural processes is irrelevant atm).
If we can find no alternative process to the one shown by Miller-Urey, then by rights of Occams Razor, this is more likely than "no process, was magic".

I do believe in a process. I believe in the design process, that it was put together by a highly intelligent being. You fault me for no evidence when you don't have evidence either? Wow...And as for primordial soups, only produced amino acids... And only 2 out of 20 that are required. It's a long way off. And I dont think God used magic, I think he used highly advanced science though it may seem like magic to you because you don't understand it. No blame, neither do I or anyone else for that matter.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#49
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
You have no understanding chippy. You have not provided proof or evidence for your argument.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#50
RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
(February 23, 2012 at 9:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: You have no understanding chippy. You have not provided proof or evidence for your argument.

NEITHER HAVE YOU
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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