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Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
#41
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Hey, that's my fairy tale you're talking about!
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#42
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
belief systems aren't (or shouldn't be ) like shoes or clothes. submission to a belief system is saying that you believe that such and such is truth, whether it attracts you or not. Ive read of people here who were once repulsed by atheism but now embrace it because they believe it to be the truth. Christians and Christianity abide by the same principle; there are many unattractive elements to Christianity (eternal punishment, the submission of your will to another being's, denial or delaying of certain natural cravings ) but that has no bearing on it's truthfulness or lack thereof. It appears that you look at Christianity as an end unto itself instead of the path through which we get to God; maybe the question to be asked is why do Christians believe their worldview to be the best explanation of existence?
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#43
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
(March 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm)Undeceived Wrote: The Bible has additional evidence supporting it, such as archaeology, historical documents, and the fact that we know it was written by multiple authors within a couple years of the events and hasn't changed since. Within 5 years of Jesus' death, Christianity exploded. Don't you think people 5 years within the fact would know if the claims were bogus? The claims I'm speaking of are Jesus' death and resurrection. God knew people would have a hard time accepting him on words alone, so he arranged actual recordable events. In addition to the evidence, we have the Holy Spirit. When we finally see the light, something clicks in the brain and it all becomes crystal clear. At that point Jesus is more real than anything else, and we know the truth. The process is not only intellectual but spiritual too. Why are people so moved to give their lives as missionaries overseas? Because they are positive of the truth. Muslims, Mormons and members of other fake religions are driven by fear. They only tell people about "God" or follow customs because they might end up in hell if they don't. Christianity is driven by love. Christians know they are already saved; they don't have to do anything. Any actions are a reaction to God's gift to them--eternal life and forgiveness for all their wrongdoings. Once we've determined in our hearts and minds that the Bible is divinely inspired, then we can use it to shape our lives. Christians don't need to read the Bible to learn God is good. They read it because He is good.

Links regarding the Bible's validity:
http://www.millennialstar.org/the-case-f...scripture/
http://www.millennialstar.org/the-case-f...evidences/

First, thank you for the links, it's always nice to be given an answer other than "I have faith", and it is much appreciated. However, I simply can't accept your argument that the fact that the bible has multiple authors, increases the likeliness of the books validity. In fact, I believe this is it's downfall, as it seems that none of these authors seem to agree on anything. Which is kind of strange if it only happened a few years prior to writing. One of densest areas of contradictions is found in the first half of the new testament, including the books, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Links regarding the many contradictions in the bible.
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Atheism/I...roject.png
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#44
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
(March 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm)Rodney "Quills" Jenkins Wrote: belief systems aren't (or shouldn't be ) like shoes or clothes. submission to a belief system is saying that you believe that such and such is truth, whether it attracts you or not. Ive read of people here who were once repulsed by atheism but now embrace it because they believe it to be the truth. Christians and Christianity abide by the same principle; there are many unattractive elements to Christianity (eternal punishment, the submission of your will to another being's, denial or delaying of certain natural cravings ) but that has no bearing on it's truthfulness or lack thereof. It appears that you look at Christianity as an end unto itself instead of the path through which we get to God; maybe the question to be asked is why do Christians believe their worldview to be the best explanation of existence?

Welcome aboard. If and when they ever figure that out, I'm all ears.

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#45
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Quote:The Bible has additional evidence supporting it, such as archaeology, historical documents, and the fact that we know it was written by multiple authors within a couple years of the events and hasn't changed since.

Wow....you've really swallowed the Kool-Aid son if you can fall for a pile of shit like that.


You had better get off your ass and read "Jesus Interrupted" before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself.
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#46
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Minimalist, even if the Bible is mostly made-up stuff, that does not mean that all of the events described in it pages are untrue. I mean the ruins of the Jerusalem temple are still there for all to see. So at least that part about a temple is true. Meaning it's not ALL fiction.
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#47
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
(March 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Welcome aboard. If and when they ever figure that out, I'm all ears.

nice to meet you bro, look forward to conversing in the future... PS Honey Badger def. does NOT give a shit!
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#48
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Quote:I mean the ruins of the Jerusalem temple are still there for all to see. So at least that part about a temple is true. Meaning it's not ALL fiction.


The ruins of the Jerusalem Temple are from Herod the Great's building project. I defy you to produce a single artifact from the alleged "solomonic temple" anywhere.
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#49
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Rodney "Quills" Jenkins Wrote:...maybe the question to be asked is why do Christians believe their worldview to be the best explanation of existence?

Because everyone thinks that their own explanation is the best, no matter how flimsy and flawed of a worldview it is.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#50
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
None deliver evidence and so are flawed
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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