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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 2:28 am
(March 4, 2012 at 2:13 am)chipan Wrote: So what if the universe is expanding? What does that prove? That galexies are moving away. That they were closer but we don't know exactly how close. It's purr speculation to say because they are moving away that they were once together. It's as much speculation as all those pieces of evidence you said "it is not constant." and by the way, the irregular decreasing of the strength of the earths magnetic will affect how much carbon 14 existed thousands of years ago making it appear that they are tens of thousands of years old. You brought that up yourself.
So what is your alternative explanation for why the universe is expanding?
Remembering that the BBT has made testable predictions that proved correct.
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 2:30 am
(March 4, 2012 at 2:28 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So what is your alternative explanation for why the universe is expanding?
Remembering that the BBT has made testable predictions that proved correct.
It doesn't have one. For that matter, it doesn't even have a coherent thought. I wonder if it's parents mourned their stillborn child?
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 2:42 am
I'm reminded of the kind of jokes we used to make when I was at school, such as "they threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth", or "when he was born they slapped his mother instead". However I would not presume to make such remarks now I'm more mature.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 2:48 am
(March 4, 2012 at 2:42 am)Stimbo Wrote: I'm reminded of the kind of jokes we used to make when I was at school, such as "they threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth", or "when he was born they slapped his mother instead". However I would not presume to make such remarks now I'm more mature.
Who made a joke?
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 3:52 am
(March 4, 2012 at 2:28 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 2:13 am)chipan Wrote: So what if the universe is expanding? What does that prove? That galexies are moving away. That they were closer but we don't know exactly how close. It's purr speculation to say because they are moving away that they were once together. It's as much speculation as all those pieces of evidence you said "it is not constant." and by the way, the irregular decreasing of the strength of the earths magnetic will affect how much carbon 14 existed thousands of years ago making it appear that they are tens of thousands of years old. You brought that up yourself.
So what is your alternative explanation for why the universe is expanding?
Remembering that the BBT has made testable predictions that proved correct.
First, saying that everything was once together is not explaining why it's expanding. That we don't know. We don't know why it's expanding but we know it is just like we don't know why matter has gravity but we know it does. Second what predictions? That hydrogen is the most abundant element? Sorry, we knew that before the BBT.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 4:03 am
(March 4, 2012 at 3:52 am)chipan Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 2:28 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 2:13 am)chipan Wrote: So what if the universe is expanding? What does that prove? That galexies are moving away. That they were closer but we don't know exactly how close. It's purr speculation to say because they are moving away that they were once together. It's as much speculation as all those pieces of evidence you said "it is not constant." and by the way, the irregular decreasing of the strength of the earths magnetic will affect how much carbon 14 existed thousands of years ago making it appear that they are tens of thousands of years old. You brought that up yourself.
So what is your alternative explanation for why the universe is expanding?
Remembering that the BBT has made testable predictions that proved correct.
First, saying that everything was once together is not explaining why it's expanding. That we don't know. We don't know why it's expanding but we know it is just like we don't know why matter has gravity but we know it does. Second what predictions? That hydrogen is the most abundant element? Sorry, we knew that before the BBT.
See Zen, go ahead and clap one hand if you really want to but just realize that it's an exercise in futility.
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 4:11 am
This from the New York Times in 2002:
Radio Telescope Proves A Big Bang Prediction
Someone really needs to keep up.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 4:19 am
(March 4, 2012 at 4:11 am)Stimbo Wrote: This from the New York Times in 2002:
Radio Telescope Proves A Big Bang Prediction
Someone really needs to keep up.
This is nothing I haven't already heard but seriously? Your best evidence is faint radiation around the universe? Come on.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 4:43 am
(March 4, 2012 at 4:19 am)chipan Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 4:11 am)Stimbo Wrote: This from the New York Times in 2002:
Radio Telescope Proves A Big Bang Prediction
Someone really needs to keep up.
This is nothing I haven't already heard but seriously? Your best evidence is faint radiation around the universe? Come on. See Stimbo, if the stillborn idiot knew what the CMBR was it wouldn't make such an idiotic statement so why are you bothering? Reason, logic or science didn't make him a Christian and it isn't gonna make him not a Christian or even understand anything pertaining to the universe.
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RE: Christianity and the 10 Commandments
March 4, 2012 at 5:02 am
(March 4, 2012 at 4:43 am)Phil Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 4:19 am)chipan Wrote: (March 4, 2012 at 4:11 am)Stimbo Wrote: This from the New York Times in 2002:
Radio Telescope Proves A Big Bang Prediction
Someone really needs to keep up.
This is nothing I haven't already heard but seriously? Your best evidence is faint radiation around the universe? Come on. See Stimbo, if the stillborn idiot knew what the CMBR was it wouldn't make such an idiotic statement so why are you bothering? Reason, logic or science didn't make him a Christian and it isn't gonna make him not a Christian or even understand anything pertaining to the universe.
Are you saying that is undeniable evidence? Absolute proof that the big bang happened? If you know about it and claim this then you are being dishonest.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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