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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 3:27 pm
black36 Wrote:There's a difference between a reasonable faith (trust) and an irrational faith (trust). No?
Of course. The problem here is that the religious have never been able to show that their faith is the former and not the latter.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 4:07 pm
(March 10, 2012 at 3:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote: black36 Wrote:There's a difference between a reasonable faith (trust) and an irrational faith (trust). No?
Of course. The problem here is that the religious have never been able to show that their faith is the former and not the latter.
The point of this discussion is not whether the object of one's faith is real. That's a different discussion. The point here is whether or not one's reason for putting one's trust or faith in said object makes sense. In other words, there are unreasonable reasons for trusting in atheism. For example, for one to adhere to atheism just because it feels right, is just as rediculous as believing in Buddah because it just feels right.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Yes, the point is whether or not one's faith in an object makes sense, which is exactly what I was saying religious people have consistently failed to demonstrate.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 4:41 pm
(March 10, 2012 at 4:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Yes, the point is whether or not one's faith in an object makes sense, which is exactly what I was saying religious people have consistently failed to demonstrate.
Well, if one always gets results when praying to unicorns, wouldn't it make sense for one to continue to trust in unicorns? (I'm just offering a hypothetical.)
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm
No, it would not, because that would make the assumption that those results were anything but a trick of the mind.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm
I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that if I prayed to a unicorn and I ended up getting what I wanted almost every time, I would, even as a skeptic, continue doing it. I wouldn't think about why or how I'd just do it.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm
(March 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm)Faith No More Wrote: No, it would not, because that would make the assumption that those results were anything but a trick of the mind.
Not to the dude praying to unicorns.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm
(March 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm)black36 Wrote: (February 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable.... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is actually ill.
-- H L Mencken
Faith = Trust, Mencken is confused
I'll stick with Mencken, thank you.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 8:37 pm
(March 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (March 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm)black36 Wrote: (February 24, 2012 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable.... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is actually ill.
-- H L Mencken
Faith = Trust, Mencken is confused
I'll stick with Mencken, thank you.
Ok, be confused
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 10, 2012 at 8:49 pm
By not having an invisible friend?
I think not, son.
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