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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 2:21 am
Here's the thing. At the end of the day, a theology degree is a claim to know things that only the dead are in a position to know with certainty and confidence. Theology isn't knowledge. It's crass speculation. A preacher with a degree in theology has no way to tell if Jesus died for our sins, or Athena sprang from the head of Zeus or Ragnarok will come because Loki and Balder couldn't get along. At the levels of evidence, anything is possible, and the truth could easily be stranger than anyone's guess. (Hastur! Hastur! He's our man. If he can't do it, Nodens can!). So a person peddling degrees in faith is peddling the pretense to knowledge they have no way of knowing.
@FNM: I didn't follow the convo, but you might want to look at the Five Solas of Protestantism if you aren't already familiar.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 4:13 am
(March 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: @ FNM: Faith in Jesus is still the only way to salvation.
Shouldn't you be saying "I believe Faith in Jesus yada yada yada..." rather than stating as if it is a fact?
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 4:36 am
Now that One King has proof the world is about to end http://atheistforums.org/thread-11884.html, I think enough has been said. Its time to open your eyes and realize that we were correct afterall.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 4:43 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 4:43 am by Sciwoman.)
Someone's story about a dream hardly qualifies as hearsay, much less evidence.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 4:53 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 4:53 am by NoMoreFaith.)
Hold on there Christian.
Some dude, on an internet forum, who you don't know, writes a post saying he was visited by Angels telling him and no-one else an incredible revelation that the end is imminent and decides AtheistForums.org was the place to share and your default position is "Really? Shit.. must be true".
Where is your filter for the imaginary. You cannot go through life automatically accepting every single thing you are told and read!
Think about that for ONE second. I'm surprised you didn't ask your pastor to think it through for you.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 6:29 am
Since the bible is true and infallible(in your mind at least)
Could you be good enough to explain this bit to me.....
" Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth
thy little ones against the stones."
Psalms 137:9
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 6:32 am
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(March 28, 2012 at 6:29 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Since the bible is true and infallible(in your mind at least)
Could you be good enough to explain this bit to me.....
" Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth
thy little ones against the stones."
Psalms 137:9
I enjoy a good child dashing.
(March 28, 2012 at 4:36 am)Christian Wrote: Now that One King has proof the world is about to end http://atheistforums.org/thread-11884.html, I think enough has been said. Its time to open your eyes and realize that we were correct afterall.
You're either a troll or just extremely delusional. The world will end when we are hit with a large asteroid/meteor or when the sun dies. Both of which we will see coming.
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 6:36 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 6:37 am by Faith No More.)
fr0d0 Wrote:@ FNM: Faith in Jesus is still the only way to salvation. The statement doesn't seem to contradict that. I very much value all ideas I can think of I've heard on the subject, including those to the contrary. It doesn't then follow that those ideas replicate salvation as I understand it. They can only ever be complimentary. I do believe it necessary for God to have a whole other methodology, but that's God acting and not us. ie our only way to him is through Jesus, but he isn't tied to that route back to us.
So, how do you explain their reluctance to state that everyone of other religions are going to hell?
apophenia Wrote:@FNM: I didn't follow the convo, but you might want to look at the Five Solas of Protestantism if you aren't already familiar.
No, I was not familiar. Thanks.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 7:54 am
(March 28, 2012 at 4:36 am)Christian Wrote: Now that One King has proof the world is about to end http://atheistforums.org/thread-11884.html, I think enough has been said. Its time to open your eyes and realize that we were correct afterall.
Crazy dude had a dream about angels. Not the first time this has happened.
I quite often have dreams of angels. They are always female and extremely hot. 
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RE: A Methodist in Your Midst
March 28, 2012 at 8:09 am
I have sexual dreams as well ... 
They usually involve Zen 
Perhaps these dreamers really NEED some sex? :S
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