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RE: Freewill
April 1, 2012 at 11:29 am
Godschild Wrote:Not according to God, you need to study scriptures my friend. ???
But I have studied scripture! I didn't make up the fact that the gospels give such different stories of who was in the tomb. Scripture itself tells me no one had the slightest idea what happened.
The Bible proving the Bible isn't proof of anything. Even if that were accepted for some reason the Bible doesn't even stand on its own two feet... Never could it prove itself.
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RE: Freewill
April 1, 2012 at 11:32 am
(April 1, 2012 at 2:53 am)Godschild Wrote: If you do not see circular reasoning in your argument then do not use circular reasoning against christian, because you do not know what it is.
You obviously don't know what a contradiction is.
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 1:34 am
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(April 1, 2012 at 11:29 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Godschild Wrote:Not according to God, you need to study scriptures my friend. ???
But I have studied scripture! I didn't make up the fact that the gospels give such different stories of who was in the tomb. Scripture itself tells me no one had the slightest idea what happened.
The Bible proving the Bible isn't proof of anything. Even if that were accepted for some reason the Bible doesn't even stand on its own two feet... Never could it prove itself.
The scriptures were never written to prove themselves.
(April 1, 2012 at 11:29 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Godschild Wrote:Not according to God, you need to study scriptures my friend. ???
But I have studied scripture! I didn't make up the fact that the gospels give such different stories of who was in the tomb. Scripture itself tells me no one had the slightest idea what happened.
The Bible proving the Bible isn't proof of anything. Even if that were accepted for some reason the Bible doesn't even stand on its own two feet... Never could it prove itself.
The gospels tell us that Jesus was the One in the tomb. If you are referring to any other part of the story, well, it's all true just did not give all of the information other accounts did. A lot of history has been patched together this way and you accept it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 4:48 am
(April 2, 2012 at 1:34 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures were never written to prove themselves.
The gospels tell us that Jesus was the One in the tomb. If you are referring to any other part of the story, well, it's all true just did not give all of the information other accounts did. A lot of history has been patched together this way and you accept it.
Is it not strange that if Christianity were to be learned from the Bible only, that Christ himself never wrote a line or commanded his apostles to write?
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 6:48 am
People are still over awed of the written word... sad really
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 6:58 am
I can't help it if what I write is simply awe-inspiring Kichi
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 7:04 am
You are at that my dear Napoleon!! You are at that...awe-inspiring I mean.
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 2:38 pm
(April 2, 2012 at 4:48 am)Forsaken Wrote: (April 2, 2012 at 1:34 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures were never written to prove themselves.
The gospels tell us that Jesus was the One in the tomb. If you are referring to any other part of the story, well, it's all true just did not give all of the information other accounts did. A lot of history has been patched together this way and you accept it.
Is it not strange that if Christianity were to be learned from the Bible only, that Christ himself never wrote a line or commanded his apostles to write?
Biographies are written about many after they are dead, and they never wrote one word of the story nor did they ask anyone to write it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Freewill
April 2, 2012 at 2:48 pm
(April 2, 2012 at 2:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: (April 2, 2012 at 4:48 am)Forsaken Wrote: (April 2, 2012 at 1:34 am)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures were never written to prove themselves.
The gospels tell us that Jesus was the One in the tomb. If you are referring to any other part of the story, well, it's all true just did not give all of the information other accounts did. A lot of history has been patched together this way and you accept it.
Is it not strange that if Christianity were to be learned from the Bible only, that Christ himself never wrote a line or commanded his apostles to write?
Biographies are written about many after they are dead, and they never wrote one word of the story nor did they ask anyone to write it.
Ever heard of this really new invention called an autobiography? They are not usually written by dead men or women.
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Freewill
April 12, 2012 at 9:11 pm
I guess it depends on what a person knows.
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