(August 5, 2009 at 2:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You can't convince Kyu to stop banging his head against that wall - he likes it.

If you actually stopped dodging long enough you might realise there are questions to be answered!

Kyu

Question: does something denifined as non evidential provide evidence
Answer: WTF???

He probably meant to say "defined" and thats a definite hell no

(August 21, 2009 at 12:42 am)Retorth Wrote: He probably meant to say "defined" and thats a definite hell no

There is evidence for it, why does everyone think there is none? If there was no evidence a hell of a lot of people wouldn't be believers. There is no definitite proof, though.

What is the evidence then?

(August 21, 2009 at 3:06 pm)maxbigwood Wrote: If there was no evidence a hell of a lot of people wouldn't be believers.

This does not follow. That's just personal increduility "There must be evidence because I just can't believe there not being any seen as so many believe!" - which is fallacious thinking.

The ubiquity of belief does nothing. If everyone believed in the FSM it would mean fuck-all. It's the same with God for the same reasons. People are are imperfect, people are mortal, people are apes, people are animals (and to my mind, they're also biological robots basically), we don't all have superpowers and whatever is most popular=correct and the odd ones out are the stupid ones...the ubiquity of belief means fuck-all.

I repeat once more: the ubiquity of belief suggests nothing and is not evidence. Where is the evidence you claim of?

EvF

(August 21, 2009 at 4:03 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:

(August 21, 2009 at 3:06 pm)maxbigwood Wrote: If there was no evidence a hell of a lot of people wouldn't be believers.

This does not follow. That's just personal increduility "There must be evidence because I just can't believe there not being any seen as so many believe!" - which is fallacious thinking.

The ubiquity of belief does nothing. If everyone believed in the FSM it would mean fuck-all. It's the same with God for the same reasons. People are are imperfect, people are mortal, people are apes, people are animals (and to my mind, they're also biological robots basically), we don't all have superpowers and whatever is most popular=correct and the odd ones out are the stupid ones...the ubiquity of belief means fuck-all.

I repeat once more: the ubiquity of belief suggests nothing and is not evidence. Where is the evidence you claim of?

EvF

The bible, more specifically the new testament

Where exactly?

Words in a book are not evidence for a supreme being. Can you give me some valid evidence? Can you give me some scripture that's somehow evidence rather than just being circular bullshit reasoning? I think not. Enlighten me.

Evidence please.

EvF

Quote:The bible, more specifically the new testament

Translation = "the same old shit."

(August 21, 2009 at 4:08 pm)maxbigwood Wrote: The bible, more specifically the new testament

Come now, we asked for evidence. I can recite my holy book (Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster) as evidence for Hell having stale beer, but just because I believe it doesn't make it true.

So give us your evidence as to why the Bible should be trusted (or believed in any way), and what parts of the Bible lead you to the conclusion of Hell.