(May 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm)Logic Wrote: Although I do have psychotic depression and am susceptible to false perceptions

Quote: but my recent feelings have been so profound that I can no longer attribute them to anything other than God.

Or false perceptions.

@Logic:


I don't know you. From the limited information you've provided,I'm in no position to suggest mental illness,nor am I qualified to make a diagnosis.Having an epiphany is not necessarily a sign of a mental illness. I'd probably be a bit suspicious if your experiences were accompanied by visions and/or voices.

Are you happy? (I don't man euphoric;THAT is always a worry). If so,do what what will make you happy.


By all means see a psychiatrist if you are troubled,NOT because some strangers on an internet forum think you should. Oh,at the Catholic school I attended, I was taught only a fool never doubts his faith.

(May 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm)Logic Wrote: As strange as it may seem, I have converted to Christianity.
I'll bet you did, but before you joined this site
I have spent a lengthy period of time analysing life from a philosophical, religious and scientific perspective.
clearly you didn't use the time wisely
I have dabbled with Christianity on several occasions, I have also dabbled with other religions such as Buddhism, Pantheism and Atheism. Although I do have psychotic depression and am susceptible to false perceptions, I have an extreme level of self-awareness, and I have been having some very intense spiritual experiences in relation to God and Jesus Christ; I can no longer deny my belief in the profound nature of Christ.
I see your username is ironic. See a doctor.

I must admit it is a radical departure from scientific realism and atheism (and I was a staunch atheist), but my recent feelings have been so profound that I can no longer attribute them to anything other than God.
Why non Thor? Or Allah? Or Zeus? You should have a look into Vishnu, he got some crazy arms

I know science discards anecdotal evidence as meaningless and unreliable;
because it is
however, I now know that Christianity leads to a much greater and more profound level of truth than the scientific method could ever accomplish,
no, it offers no evidence to support its outlandish and quite frankly ridiculous claims.
particularly in the areas of emotional wisdom and morality.
being an arrogant fool who despite offering no evidence, acts high and mighty on issues they cant possibly know anything about, is not wisdom. And on morality, you clearly haven't read the bible, the greeks half a millenia before christianity were far more moral and the chinese were fare wiser, they knew far more about the world than the theistic fools of the middle east.

Good day sir.

(May 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm)StatCrux Wrote: I would suggest that you seek professional psychiatric help in order to evaluate these experiences. A good psychiatrist with a religious background and experience of spirituality. Rule out any mental illness. A good rule of thumb regarding spiritual experiences is the effect that they produce in your life. If you life is enriched and improved by the experience it is more likely to be genuine. If it has a negative impact on your life to the detriment of relationships or health for example it must be questioned and evaluated. A good confessor is very useful.

"Yeah, so if you hallucinate good stuff and it ends well, that's god, if you hallucinate terrible shit and it ends badly, not so much."

Although I have severe mental illness, I am a genius according to Mensa.

My belief in Christianity is extremely complex. Firstly, to all those discourteous, ignorant fools who have replied, I would like to inform you that I have evaluated this many, MANY times over and have come to the conclusion that Christianity offers me a deeper and more profound way of looking at things. Science and atheism are inadequate at accounting for the ineffable phenomenon of human subjective consciousness (apart from the study of neural correlates of consciousness in cognitive neuroscience), nor does it account for subjective emotional wisdom and altruism in human beings. Christ's message concerning unconditional love has had a profound impact on me.

I am not a biblical literalist, nor do I believe that Christianity is the ONLY truth. I believe relativism (in philosophy) is the ultimate perception framework that encapsulates all possible belief systems. For some of you God absolutely does not exist, for others among you God obviously does exist (in various forms). Therefore, from this perspective, God exists and does not exist at the same time. Extremely counter intuitive ideas like this are also present in the quantum universe, in which, according to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, an indivisible subatomic particle, such as a photon or electron, can exist and not exist at the same time in certain instances.

I do not believe that Christianity is more true than Atheism or Islam; however, it feels right and true to me.

That isn't what Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states. At least, it wasn't what it stated when I read it last.

(May 14, 2012 at 3:48 am)Tiberius Wrote: That isn't what Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states. At least, it wasn't what it stated when I read it last.

Yeah you're right. It states that one cannot know the precise location of a particle nor can you know the precise energy of it.

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(May 14, 2012 at 3:41 am)Logic Wrote: Although I have severe mental illness, I am a genius according to Mensa.

My belief in Christianity is extremely complex. Firstly, to all those discourteous, ignorant fools who have replied, I would like to inform you that I have evaluated this many, MANY times over and have come to the conclusion that Christianity offers me a deeper and more profound way of looking at things. Science and atheism are inadequate at accounting for the ineffable phenomenon of human subjective consciousness (apart from the study of neural correlates of consciousness in cognitive neuroscience), nor does it account for subjective emotional wisdom and altruism in human beings. Christ's message concerning unconditional love has had a profound impact on me.

I am not a biblical literalist, nor do I believe that Christianity is the ONLY truth. I believe relativism (in philosophy) is the ultimate perception framework that encapsulates all possible belief systems. For some of you God absolutely does not exist, for others among you God obviously does exist (in various forms). Therefore, from this perspective, God exists and does not exist at the same time. Extremely counter intuitive ideas like this are also present in the quantum universe, in which, according to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, an indivisible subatomic particle, such as a photon or electron, can exist and not exist at the same time in certain instances.

I do not believe that Christianity is more true than Atheism or Islam; however, it feels right and true to me.

That's a really interesting way of seeing things, and something I tried to do initially when I deconverted. That is, to see any given religion as nothing more than a philosophy of life. Is this where you stand? Or do you believe the literal promises of either heaven or hell?

(May 14, 2012 at 4:07 am)FallentoReason Wrote:

(May 14, 2012 at 3:48 am)Tiberius Wrote: That isn't what Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states. At least, it wasn't what it stated when I read it last.

Yeah you're right. It states that one cannot know the precise location of a particle nor can you know the precise energy of it.

Something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vc-Uvp3vwg

In that case,you should ask an admin to change your username.

(May 14, 2012 at 4:27 am)znk666 Wrote: In that case,you should ask an admin to change your username.

Why?