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God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
#31
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:03 am)Kayenneh Wrote: So do as I say, not as I do. What a hypocrite Tongue

For real. This "God" character has never shown himself to be of worthy substance.
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#32
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:03 am)Kayenneh Wrote: So do as I say, not as I do. What a hypocrite Tongue

If you were or are an artist and I destroy one of your works it would be against the law, however you can destroy it and it's not against the law, simple really.Angel
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#33
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
Yeah, well, I always thought it was a poorly written character. When it comes to bad guys, I prefer Voldemort Big Grin
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#34
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:07 am)Godschild Wrote:
(May 30, 2012 at 3:03 am)Kayenneh Wrote: So do as I say, not as I do. What a hypocrite Tongue

If you were or are an artist and I destroy one of your works it would be against the law, however you can destroy it and it's not against the law, simple really.Angel

Except paintings don't feel horrible suffering and anguish.
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#35
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:07 am)Godschild Wrote: If you were or are an artist and I destroy one of your works it would be against the law, however you can destroy it and it's not against the law, simple really.Angel

Right.. So god is a human then, and we mere humans are only paintings/statues etc? Sorry, I must be incredible stupid for not seeing how a life can be compared to an inanimate object.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#36
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
By GC reasoning parents should be able to kill their children whom were created. Whats the difference between human life and paintings eh.
Do as I say not do as I do is one of the most flawed parental concepts of all. I suspect at this point God invokes another backdoor clause that stops him being 'our father who art in heaven'.

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#37
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 12:13 am)Godschild Wrote:
Quote:He cannot accept a soul into heaven without us accepting Jesus and human sacrifice.

His rules, live with it.
Quote:2 Kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

Wow, Elijah went to heaven without even accepting Jesus' "sacrifice".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qAqAhKEk5M


Quote:How much more love could He have shown us, than to lay down His life for us.
Gods CAN'T die.

Some sacrifice. You know what would be an actual sacrifice? Your stupid deity forfeiting his own god-given (pun) rights to rule over humanity, so that the gulf between god and mortal man may be overcome with love and kinship. Not fucking sheep hive mind adoration and mindless worship.


Quote:Because the limits He has are self imposed, that's the ultimate in power.
He cannot create another god can he?

If I recall, you dismissed that fact as "childish" last time didn't you?

*sigh* What are we going to do with you G-C?
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#38
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
He would have been omnipotent but for the fact he doesn't exist and therefore can't do anything at all.
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#39
RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm)Drich Wrote: [

the Word in question in the Greek is:pantokratōr
Which translate into Almighty in this context. Only translations who supports Catholic based doctrine translate into omnipotent.

I bow to your knowledge and can only tell you that that quote is from a protestant K J bible.

Regards
DL

G C.

“Quote:He cannot reproduce true.

He does not need to He creates, example Adam.”

Creating is not exactly reproducing. Does God have any sons who are not produced threw bestiality via a human female?

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“Quote:He cannot enjoy sex.

He is Spirit and finds no need for it”

Need it or not, he cannot enjoy it.

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“Quote:He cannot reproduce without bestiality or cross species breeding.

He finds no need for your practices.”

Thanks for bearing false witness.

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“Quote:He could not create a heaven without Satan.

Heaven exist and Satan will not soon.”

Scriptures say that all God creates is for his pleasure. Why would he kill that which gives him pleasure?

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“Quote:He could not create Eden without evil in it.

He did, evil came later.”

When exactly then did God allow Satan or the talking snake into the garden if not when he created it?

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“Quote:He cannot control wayward demons or devils.

Jesus put several in swine, and drove many out of people and told them to shut up and they did, some were extremely frightened when Jesus showed up. In the end He will cast them all in the lake of fire.”

Why did God not do so before Satan ruined his new proto humans A & E?

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“Quote:He cannot sin, although scripture says he does.

You're right, and thanks for pointing out such a wonderful thing. Scripture does not say God ever sinned, show me scripture to prove this statement. “

I have offered to before but you will not answer a moral question beforehand out of fear.

If I place a lie in someone’s mind and they pass on that lie, am I culpable of lying?

Give an answer and you will get your quotes.

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“Quote:He cannot live without needs like adoration, honour, obedience, love.

He has existed forever, what was it like before He created.”

I have no idea but dogma says that God does not change.
You tell me then please just when God went from no need from non-existing entities to all those need from existing ones.

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“Quote:He cannot accept a soul into heaven without us accepting Jesus and human sacrifice.

His rules, live with it.”

No thanks. I have morals and will not try to profit from God having his son murdered.
You go ahead and end in hell.

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“Quote:He could not forgive sin without having Jesus sacrificed.

How much more love could He have shown us, than to lay down His life for us.”

Can God die?

Regards
DL

(May 30, 2012 at 3:07 am)Godschild Wrote:
(May 30, 2012 at 3:03 am)Kayenneh Wrote: So do as I say, not as I do. What a hypocrite Tongue

If you were or are an artist and I destroy one of your works it would be against the law, however you can destroy it and it's not against the law, simple really.Angel

A simple answer that is complicated by the fact that God word tell us to emulate him and be as perfect as he is.

That would mean that we too can ignore laws when it suits us. Right?

Regards
DL
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
(May 30, 2012 at 3:09 am)Annik Wrote:
(May 30, 2012 at 3:07 am)Godschild Wrote: If you were or are an artist and I destroy one of your works it would be against the law, however you can destroy it and it's not against the law, simple really.Angel

Except paintings don't feel horrible suffering and anguish.

We're discussing a principle.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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