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God is real.
#1
God is real.
There is a God. How do I know? Well the answer is simple-Only a God could have created the universe. How do I know this? Well take a look at this argument:The universe. How did it get here? It couldn't have gotten here on its own. That would be an example of spontaneous generation, a theory disproved a long, long, time ago. It couldn't have always been here. That to, would be impossible according to science. Therefore, the only possible answer would be that something else would have had to have created it. What's the only thing that could do that? Something with ultimate power. What's the only conceivable thing with ultimate power? God.(or many, but that's a discussion for another time.) Well you might be thinking, how did God get here, then? Well, what's the only thing with the ability to create itself? Something with ultimate power. What's the only conceivable thing with ultimate power? God. Therefore, God is 100% real and He must have created the universe.
That is a big claim I just made, and as such it requires scientific accreditadion. So, here you go. William Lane Craig, a scientist uses basic logic to show how a God must have created the universe in his version of the Kalam cosmotologial arguement:
1.Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2.The universe began to exist.
3.Therefore, the universe has a cause.
What is the only thing with the power necessary to create the universe, the ultimate power? A God. So, undoubtabley there is a God and He created the universe.
Sources and many more arguments:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kal%C4%81m_cosmological_argument#Contemporary_argument
http://gii.josiahconcept.org
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/2...stence.htm
http://butler-harris.org/tag/
http://theologicalstudies.org/resource-l...-existence
http://carm.org/cosmological-argument
http://www.iep.utm.edu/ont-arg/
http://brindedcow.umd.edu/236/lewis.html
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/...s-for-god/
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/teleol...arguments/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_o...nce_of_God
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/t...ments.html
Extra argument: Scientists say that if they universe were one grain of sand bigger or smaller humans would not be here today. There is almost no possibility that that could be random. What is the only thing with that kind of precision? Something with omnipotence, God. Therefore only a God could have created the universe.
Source for this:http://physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/phys10/universe.pdf
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#2
RE: God is real.
With a name like dingaling? To the funny farm!
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#3
RE: God is real.
(June 1, 2012 at 9:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: With a name like dingaling? To the funny farm!

With a name like dingaling, it has to be good.
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#4
RE: God is real.
All of your arguments reek of misunderstanding. The Big Bang is what caused the expansion of the universe.
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#5
RE: God is real.
Dingaling. Good name. Now read the forum before posting again. You are far from the first little believer who has come here with that claim and has presented absolutely no evidence.

(Sorry for not giving a more involved answer. That vodka hit me rather hard.)
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin

"Much better to have the ability to think critically, than the ability to quote scripture. One says you have a functioning mind. The other says you're a parrot." -- The Secular Buddhist
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#6
RE: God is real.
(June 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm)Annik Wrote: All of your arguments reek of misunderstanding. The Big Bang is what caused the expansion of the universe.

It was invented by a theist.

(June 1, 2012 at 9:53 pm)Sciwoman Wrote: Dingaling. Good name. Now read the forum before posting again. You are far from the first little believer who has come here with that claim and has presented absolutely no evidence.

(Sorry for not giving a more involved answer. That vodka hit me rather hard.)

I read the rules, I haven't broken any. I have provided several good arguments and over a dozen sources/arguments on other websites. I don't get what you are saying.
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#7
RE: God is real.
You need to show that said "cause" is a personal intelligent conscious being.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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#8
RE: God is real.
Haha, he doesn't misunderstand.
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#9
RE: God is real.
(June 1, 2012 at 9:56 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: You need to show that said "cause" is a personal intelligent conscious being.

I explained how the cause has to be a God.
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#10
RE: God is real.
Wow, that was fast; I blinked and missed all the fun. To his credit, his name suits him far too much. It was just too tempting.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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