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RE: Do you recognize that God gains pleasure in creating evil?
June 16, 2012 at 3:08 am
(June 15, 2012 at 10:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ dudeamis, you should study scripture before making such unfounded remarks, Undeceived just gave you a taste of scriptural knowledge.
Based on your general procedure, I think he gave you a taste of scriptural knowledge as well.
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RE: Do you recognize that God gains pleasure in creating evil?
June 16, 2012 at 10:44 am
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(June 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 15, 2012 at 7:08 am)Faith No More Wrote: Really? Here is a direct quote.
I can't tell if you're being willfully disingenuous or if you cannot convert short term memory into long term.
Now you're trying to make me look like a liar, it's you sir who is being deceitful, shame on you for such dishonesty. The last part of that statement says, Ourselves because we fall to the deceit of the great deceiver. So were in this does the statement say we/I blame Satan, you really should learn to see what has been written, you need to quit reading your beliefs into my statements. Oh, but you ARE a liar. You troll all over this forum claiming that your fairy tales are true, and claiming to speak for your fairy tale BIFF. You aren't even a GOOD liar: no one is fooled, except for the other liars. The people you are trying to fool aren't convinced in the least.
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RE: Do you recognize that God gains pleasure in creating evil?
June 16, 2012 at 11:45 am
Godschild Wrote:No He did not, Lucifer had free will, Lucifer allowed his mind to conceive He could be greater than his Creator, Lucifer acted upon those wrong notions, and he is Satan with a bunch of fallen angels he has power over. God will ultimately destroy him, it was not God's will that Lucifer fall, it was Lucifer's will that caused him to fall, if Lucifer had done God's will none of this would have happened. You want to blame God for the way things turned out, it's Lucifer that you should blame. It's funny in a way and pitiful in others, atheist call christians stupid and deluded, yet we are the ones that are intelligent enough to know who to blame. Ourselves for falling to the great deceiver, the father of lies, Lucifer.
So, I went back to read the original post that is in contention, and I have found the source of my confusion. When I read your post, I focused on the part I have bolded above, and I missed the part that italicized. I aplogize for making you sound like a liar, and my intention was not to be deceitful.
To be fair, however, the message of your post is a bit ambiguous.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Do you recognize that God gains pleasure in creating evil?
June 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2012 at 3:59 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 16, 2012 at 3:08 am)Epimethean Wrote: (June 15, 2012 at 10:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ dudeamis, you should study scripture before making such unfounded remarks, Undeceived just gave you a taste of scriptural knowledge.
Based on your general procedure, I think he gave you a taste of scriptural knowledge as well.
i always receive new info from scriptures with delight.
(June 16, 2012 at 11:45 am)Faith No More Wrote: Godschild Wrote:No He did not, Lucifer had free will, Lucifer allowed his mind to conceive He could be greater than his Creator, Lucifer acted upon those wrong notions, and he is Satan with a bunch of fallen angels he has power over. God will ultimately destroy him, it was not God's will that Lucifer fall, it was Lucifer's will that caused him to fall, if Lucifer had done God's will none of this would have happened. You want to blame God for the way things turned out, it's Lucifer that you should blame. It's funny in a way and pitiful in others, atheist call christians stupid and deluded, yet we are the ones that are intelligent enough to know who to blame. Ourselves for falling to the great deceiver, the father of lies, Lucifer.
So, I went back to read the original post that is in contention, and I have found the source of my confusion. When I read your post, I focused on the part I have bolded above, and I missed the part that italicized. I aplogize for making you sound like a liar, and my intention was not to be deceitful.
To be fair, however, the message of your post is a bit ambiguous.
I appreciate you doing this. Some just want to continue to argue, again thanks for rechecking the post. I do believe you did not mean to be deceitful.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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