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If you were certain a designer exists...
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If you were certain a designer exists...
July 20, 2012 at 11:18 pm (This post was last modified: July 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm by Mystic.)
If you were certain a designer/creator exists to the universe, do you think you would also believe it to be "God"? "God" as in the being that is so great that's impossible to become greater?

Or would you think it can be anything or be of any number and have equals?
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 20, 2012 at 11:25 pm
The "designer" is natural selection which picks what works...not that which works elegantly.

Evolution has mistakes. These are acceptable in natural selection but if there is a god he is one suck-ass designer.

http://scienceray.com/philosophy-of-scie...leftovers/

Quote:Designed or Defunct: God’s Mistakes or Evolutionary Leftovers?

Read more: http://scienceray.com/philosophy-of-scie...z21Dwmufsn
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 4:31 am
Atheist perspective: God = creator = evolution = sucks Sad
Theist perspective: God = creator > evolution = rocks!
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 5:00 am
(July 21, 2012 at 4:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheist perspective: God = creator = evolution = sucks Sad
Theist perspective: God = creator > evolution = rocks!

What sort of rocks are we talking about here?

Big ones or the little buggers that get stuck in your tyres and make an annoying noise as you drive along?
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 5:00 am
(July 21, 2012 at 4:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheist perspective: God = creator = evolution = sucks Sad
Theist perspective: God = creator > evolution = rocks!

Fuck, this was lame. Nice try.

Fr0d0, you've been around long enough to know that god and creator can't be included in an atheist equation.

The only sucking going on here is the noise made as the air rushes into your ass when you pull your head out of it.
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 7:47 am (This post was last modified: July 21, 2012 at 7:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No Mystic, I probably wouldn't consider the thing a god. There are many creators and designers of many things, none of them gods. Supposing that there was an entity responsible for the creation of all things, the term "god" would be inappropriate, and imho, an insult to that entity.

Imagine for a moment you were such an entity, would you want human beings attaching all their "god" baggage to you? I doubt it.
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Re: RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 12:35 pm
(July 21, 2012 at 5:00 am)cato123 Wrote: Fr0d0, you've been around long enough to know that god and creator can't be included in an atheist equation.

Yet you seem to have missed that exact reference that inspired my post (mins post above mine Wink)
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Quote:Fuck, this was lame. Nice try.

Frods does "lame" with the best of them!
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RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 12:58 pm
(July 21, 2012 at 4:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheist perspective: God = creator = evolution = sucks Sad
Theist perspective: God = creator > evolution = rocks!

You know fr0d0, being the dumb atheist I am, I cant figure this one out, care to enlighten me? Or is it beyond my atheistic understanding? Big Grin *pokes, pokes*
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Re: RE: If you were certain a designer exists...
July 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm
(July 21, 2012 at 12:58 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(July 21, 2012 at 4:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheist perspective: God = creator = evolution = sucks Sad
Theist perspective: God = creator > evolution = rocks!

You know fr0d0, being the dumb atheist I am, I cant figure this one out, care to enlighten me? Or is it beyond my atheistic understanding? Big Grin *pokes, pokes*

Y'ok Poet Smile

The first line is a summary of Minimalists post above mine.

"if god created evolution then god sucks"

The second line: Theists believe that god created evolution and that's just fantastic (we appreciate it)

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