Those that can't read too well. Sure.

(July 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Those that can't read too well. Sure.

Oh right? Theres a correlation between people who judge for themselves and people who can't read too well is there?
Well done.

There's a correlation between those who can't read what's written and those who draw ignorant conclusions. I guess you could also call that original thinking too lol

(July 21, 2012 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: There's a correlation between those who can't read what's written and those who draw ignorant conclusions. I guess you could also call that original thinking too lol

You could but you'd be making the fatal assumption that you're capable of original thinking. Your dependency on answers from the internet as opposed to giving an answer in your own words would seem to go against this notion. Perhaps you are simply not intelligent enough to do so or, and this is my theory, perhaps you don't want to commit yourself to actually having of expressed any interpretations or views of your own and would rather I sifted through the internet to look for an interpretation you agree with.
Such intellectual cowardice and laziness combined is amazing to behold. Personally I'd be embarrassed to even have considered attempting such a thing.

Anyway. thats my theory. Like I said: the readers will come to their own conclusions based on what you have written.

You're such a fucking jerk Raphael lol. If you stopped to think before emptying your stomach here you might retain a grain of respect. As it stands, your impatience gains you nothing, and your cognitive abilities are exposed for their extreme limitations.

(July 21, 2012 at 5:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You're such a fucking jerk Raphael lol. If you stopped to think before emptying your stomach here you might retain a grain of respect. As it stands, your impatience gains you nothing, and your cognitive abilities are exposed for their extreme limitations.

Ha, yeah. Sure. Because your complex arguments gain tons of respect. Wake up and smell your own bullshit, I've seen tons of your debates. I've never seen one you didn't retreat from with insults.
The only reason you consider me a "jerk" is because I don't tolerate this childish behaviour. You failed to answer me in your own words as I requested and insisted that I search for your answer for you.
But no, according to you thats not your fault. Thats my fault isn't it? It seems you blame everyone but yourself for your own feeble arguments. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're just not very good at this?

From someone with reading difficulties such as yourself I take all of that as you fantasizing again.

FYI I'm really not going to answer you this time. Let me explain why.
1. You didn't acknowledge my answer last time. So this childish tirade won't end here.
2. You keep on with the mindless badgering despite me telling you I had no time to respond yesterday.
3. Your questions are so infantile that they don't warrant an answer.
4. All of your questions already got answered yet you still ask like they weren't.

Now carry on regardless.

(July 22, 2012 at 8:40 am)fr0d0 Wrote: From someone with reading difficulties such as yourself I take all of that as you fantasizing again.

FYI I'm really not going to answer you this time. Let me explain why.
1. You didn't acknowledge my answer last time. So this childish tirade won't end here.
2. You keep on with the mindless badgering despite me telling you I had no time to respond yesterday.
3. Your questions are so infantile that they don't warrant an answer.
4. All of your questions already got answered yet you still ask like they weren't.

Now carry on regardless.

1. The names of several websites and suggesting I sift through them is not *your* answer. It is you sending me on an errand to find someone elses you agree with. It is lazy, it is dishonest and you should be ashamed for even attempting to suggest it in a debate *you* are in.
2. Maybe you'd have had more time if you had answered to begin with instead of stalling and attempting to run away, you seem to have time now by the way so go ahead. I'm listening.
3. If you consider being curious as to *your* interpretation of two Bible stories, which you consider to be the right one, that seem to promote rape, incest, sexual slavery and sacrificing an innocent in place of yourself "infantile" then I think you'll find most people in the world equally so. I would of thought you'd be flattered for someone to ask for *your* interpretation, the "accepted" one, and gracefully present it in *your* own words.
4. You just said you didn't have time to answer my questions and they didn't warrant an answer. 180 much? Also, see "1."
5. Are you going to actually give *your* answer or are you going to go through with this badly veiled retreat?

Just incase you forgot:
"What is this accepted interpretation of the Bible passages that talks about Lots daughters getting him drunk specifically to get pregnant? What is the accepted interpretation of the priest and the concubine?"
Answer in your own words or retreat, your choice.
If you wish to insult the intelligence of the readers further you can also continue to attempt to stall if you like. :-)

(July 22, 2012 at 8:40 am)fr0d0 Wrote: From someone with reading difficulties such as yourself I take all of that as you fantasizing again.

FYI I'm really not going to answer you this time. Let me explain why.
1. You didn't acknowledge my answer last time. So this childish tirade won't end here.
2. You keep on with the mindless badgering despite me telling you I had no time to respond yesterday.
3. Your questions are so infantile that they don't warrant an answer.
4. All of your questions already got answered yet you still ask like they weren't.

Now carry on regardless.

Let me strip this bullshit down a little just to make things go a little more efficiently

1- fair play, all discussion should take into account all points raised wherever possible, yet having second-hand opinions is only good when you can actually expand on them and aren't trying to gain boo-hoorahs by pasting other people's opinions, stop being a pretentious wanker.
2- that's normal, its called skepticism and it's generally useful for sifting the wheat from the chaff in life.
3- question dodging, stop being a pussy, if your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny and you can't answer questions then amend it or admit defeat
4- agree with Raphiel, don't moan about your questions not being answered then bitch about questions being asked. Admittedly there should be responses but you'll have to accept that people can't always respond to everything, other stuff is going on in the world.

Personally I'd advise avoiding the Ad-Homs because that's a pussy move to cover for a bad argument and just generally a dick thing to do

I suppose my main points are (1)- whenever possible all points should be considered regardless of how you perceive their value, and (2)- If you've no personal response there is very little point citing others, that's simply avoidance

(July 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm)liam Wrote:

(July 22, 2012 at 8:40 am)fr0d0 Wrote: From someone with reading difficulties such as yourself I take all of that as you fantasizing again.

FYI I'm really not going to answer you this time. Let me explain why.
1. You didn't acknowledge my answer last time. So this childish tirade won't end here.
2. You keep on with the mindless badgering despite me telling you I had no time to respond yesterday.
3. Your questions are so infantile that they don't warrant an answer.
4. All of your questions already got answered yet you still ask like they weren't.

Now carry on regardless.

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Let me strip this bullshit down a little just to make things go a little more efficiently

1- fair play, all discussion should take into account all points raised wherever possible, yet having second-hand opinions is only good when you can actually expand on them and aren't trying to gain boo-hoorahs by pasting other people's opinions, stop being a pretentious wanker.
2- that's normal, its called skepticism and it's generally useful for sifting the wheat from the chaff in life.
3- question dodging, stop being a pussy, if your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny and you can't answer questions then amend it or admit defeat
4- agree with Raphiel, don't moan about your questions not being answered then bitch about questions being asked. Admittedly there should be responses but you'll have to accept that people can't always respond to everything, other stuff is going on in the world.

Personally I'd advise avoiding the Ad-Homs because that's a pussy move to cover for a bad argument and just generally a dick thing to do

I suppose my main points are (1)- whenever possible all points should be considered regardless of how you perceive their value, and (2)- If you've no personal response there is very little point citing others, that's simply avoidance

I could care less about Ad Homins, I blaspheme both claims and individuals myself so I really could give a shit less if a theists does the same to me. What is more important to me is the argument someone makes.

You could look at "ad homins" much like the NFL fans behind the goal posts trying to distract the kicker from making the field goal. I think if you are a good kicker, those fans won't make you choke.

If someone wants to call me a dick, or equate me to Hitler merely because I don't believe, I could give a shit less about that. Let em do it. It still wouldn't change that they don't have one lick of evidence for such a claim.

I really am not much for arguing against offending people, them or us. Our species has always found something to bitch about and we all do it. To think anyone should be free from being offended is absurd on a planet of 7 billion.